Harry Potter Conspiracy Theory #1: RAB
August 1, 2005 | Harry Potter
As I mentioned previously I fancy having a go at working out what is going on in the world of Harry Potter. I’m going to split my theories up into a series of posts, each about a different element of the books. Since I’ve already mentioned him this one is going to be about RAB.
RAB are the initials of a character mentioned towards the end of book 6, Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. The initials are found in a message which is in a locket which is, initially at least, thought to be a Horcrux. The message reads:
To the Dark Lord I know I will be dead long before you read this but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret. I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can.
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match you will be mortal once more.
R.A.B.
When I read the book a single name sprang to mind immediately; Regulus Black. But how can we be sure this is correct? Obviously there is no way to be 100% certain, but I find it hard to believe the solution would be that straight forward…
Arguments FOR Regulus Black
The idea that Regulus Black is RAB is by far the most popular conclusion and there seems to be lots of things that pop up confirming the theory.
The letter refers to the ‘Dark Lord’ rather than Voldemort, or ‘he who must not be named’. Only Death Eaters call Voldermort the Dark Lord so this is our first clue that the person is Regulus since he is a Death Eater who ran away.
In the Order of the Phoenix chapter 6, ‘the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black’ it is mentioned that Sirius, Regulus Brother, had an uncle named Alphard who left the ‘a decent bit of gold’ and, apparently, 12 Grimmauld Place - the headquarters of the Order of the Phoenix. Using names from relatives is fairly common practice in the UK. We know this has happened in the past, Ginnies middle name is Molly (her mothers name), so it’s not inconceivable that the A is his uncles initial passed down.
In the same book a ‘heavy locket that none of them could open’ is mentioned which is found in 12 Grimmauld Place, it couldn’t be opened and was thrown away, but we later learn that Kreacher, the house elf, has stolen the it. Could this be the Horcrux that was replaced by the locket that Dumbledore and Harry found?
Arguments AGAINST Regulus Black
Hands up, I don’t have ANY sort of argument against Regulus Black being RAB, apart from my gut feeling that it’s so obvious that it can’t be true. It has been speculated the R.A.B. is the initials for two people, R And B - but I find the unlikely as well. If it was R and B then the a would be little and wouldn’t have a full stop after it. In fact R and B would most likely be written that way and not made to look like a single person.
Speculation
What people don’t realise is that Sirius Black is a false name,’ says Mrs Purkiss. ‘The man people believe to be Sirius Black is actually Stubby Boardman, lead singer of popular singing group The Hobgoblins, who retired from public life after being struck on the ear by a turnip at a concert in Little Norton Church Hall nearly fifteen years ago. I recognised him the moment I saw his picture in the paper. Now, Stubby couldn’t possibly have committed those crimes, because on the day in question he happened to be enjoying a romantic candlelit dinner with me. I have written to the Minister for Magic and am expecting him to give Stubby, alias Sirius, a full pardon any day now.
I’m guessing this is a reference to Regulus since we know Sirius was there ‘the day in question’ (although he IS innocent). Also in an earlier chapter Sirius mentions that Regulus died 15 years previously, which would be the same year Harry’s parents were killed, and probably before Sirius was taken to Azkaban. JK rarely mentions anything without some sort of reason so is this is some sort of proof that Regulus didn’t die and just went into hiding (as a rock star?).
I do wonder if too much thought is being put into the whole RAB issue, and it’s just a red herring and not overly important… Everyone is speculating on this and forgetting about the more ‘important’ issues in the rest of the story.
If you could keep comments ontopic that would be great - I’m looking forward to seeing what people think.
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- Harry Potter Conspiracy Theory #1: RAB
- Harry Potter Conspiracy Theory #2: Dumbledore
- Harry Potter Conspiracy Theory #3: Snape
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August 2, 2005
Well, I think you are completely right in this one…
But I think that Regulus will play a big role in book 7…
Here is another one:
Miss figg, harry’s neighbour is definetley someone in disguise using polyjuice..the smell of cabbage, polyjuice smells like cabbage… That is why I think its aberforth.. DDs brother….
August 2, 2005
i fink u r correct about RAB, it all makes sense but i suppose well just havew to wait and see.
However i dont think snape is good as dd said in book 6 i am a wise wizard who makes few mistakes but when i do they are big ones, this could be hintin a mistake on snape, mayb
August 2, 2005
I think regulus is dead, if he was alive, how could Harry get #12, if would havebeen passed on to the next male desendant by the name of black, which would be regulus
August 2, 2005
Interesting - I hadn’t thought of that. I still think the quote I mentioned is significant in some way, but maybe not the way I said
August 3, 2005
You’ve mentioned one person- RAB, and two people (R and B) How about three people? If a list is compiled of everyone with the initials R, A, or B, there might (possibly) be a connection… ?? I doubt this though, because it is written singular “I have stolen…” Some of these are not even real possibilities, just thought I’d list them, please add to it.
R: Regulus, Rookwood, Rosmerta, Remus
A: Aberforth, Alphard, Albus, Andromeda (as in Tonks’ mom)
B: Borgin, Burke, Black, Bellatrix, Bertha (Jorkins)
August 4, 2005
oh btw, ben, where does it mention that ginny’s middle name is molly? cos i dont recall seeing it anywere… ?? but yes i agree with u about the issue that they had the habit of giving family member names…tom marvolo would be a most prominent example
August 4, 2005
to #3:
maybe u dont necessarily hav to be dead, but just being thought dead by everyone will automatically remove u off d list of heirs to grimmauld place?? not so sure about this one though…
August 4, 2005
erm…just had a straaaaange thought…i dont really believe in it at all, but just thought id share it…..but i just remembered that the lestranges are called Rodolphus and Bellatrix (R a B)…the only thing is that theyre too obsessed abt voldy to try vanquish him…and it also makes them 2 qualified wizard/witch, and dumbledore said only 1 qualified wizard would manage at the same time…
August 4, 2005
Interview with JK Rowling - she mentions the middle names of some of the characters right at the bottom
August 4, 2005
sorry about the last post,
just wanted to say that I agree with every word you say, it’s only common sense that indicated that RAB is really Regulus Black.
Although it was a little too obvious that many people would think of Regulus, and I suspect that JK doesn’t tend to be so obvious so it might justbe another character, but that’s only stating the obvious.
In my opinion Regulus is the one in question and therefore I totaly agree with you!!
August 4, 2005
im pretty sure rab is regulus, but i dont really think he’s still alive somehow…BUT i think that theres a mine of info in kreacher, whom i believe has assisted regulus by either forcing down the potion or drinkin d potion himself….but then….why is it that kreacher NEVER mentions regulus at all???
August 5, 2005
ALSO! i found this on that website -
Rorujin: How is Dobby able to apparate inside Hogwarts if no one else can?
JK Rowling replies -> He’s a house-elf, they’ve got powers wizards haven’t got (but wizards have also got powers that house-elves haven’t).
When Dumbledore is facing Draco on the tower - Dobby and kreacher were supposed to be there. Does that mean maybe Dobby (even kreacher, highly doubtful) did some sort of Elven magic? Do they have the magic to save people? Or was this statement just a cover-up for a certain loop-hole? Another theory
August 5, 2005
dobby and kreacher wouldnt have been in the tower unless summoned, and i dont recall them being called at any time that evening. also, as kreacher now belongs to harry he will only answer to his master.
i just think that jkr had said that statement to coverup to loophole that house elves can apparate inside the castle while humans cant, but she might end up using this theory later on
August 6, 2005
Wow. Just heard a great theory, not really related to the RAB situation but puts some of the Harry Potter issues into focus. Could it be possible that Snape is actually still doubling? It’s pushing the limits but when Dumbledore was pleading to Snape, he could of been wanting Snape to kill him so that he could continue his doubling. Notice how he didnt seem to hurt any of the other “good guys.” When really, he could of beat them all, I mean he is the half-blood prince (dead giveaway after his expression about harry being good at potions, and given away after the sectasempra accident) and the creator of the sectasempra spell (or however you spell it). I’m sure that Snape has a lot more in him than what people think. However it could still be pushing the limits however, an idea.
August 6, 2005
In response to Reply 5, Albus wouldn’t fit because he wouldn’t of gone back to get the horcrux if he had already partcipated in ridding of it in the first place. However, still a good theory.
August 6, 2005
not to be rude or anything but besides i thought this was a good accusation, i have brains, a skull, tissue, blood and many more good things…
August 6, 2005
also to support middle name theory ‘harry james potter’
August 6, 2005
http://www.dumbledoreisnotdead...
August 6, 2005
With all the theories that dumbledore is dead, i think we will have to wait till book 7. But for the time being we can only imagine:) and i can’twait for the fourth movie.
August 6, 2005
#18 chloe - I don’t agree that Dumbledore is till alive (will post why in the future) but it’s an interesting read, and I think some of the points mentioned will be significant in the future.
#12 Rob - I don’t remember any mention of Kreacher and Dobby being on the tower. The interview in post #9 was done last year.
August 6, 2005
#18 i think dumbledore is dead in my opinion because:
JkR wanted everyone to jump
Harry said why snape was a liar
and 3 we just have to accept his death
I also dont get why dumbledore didnt just show harry the memory with horcruxes first then teach him dark arts or something. I dont see how it helps to explain how “Vol demort is his own grampaw”
August 6, 2005
i also agree that dumby is dead, but im also sure that he left some means of communication with the physical world, something such as the portrait in d office or something or the sort
August 6, 2005
#22 maybe he could have put his mind,thoghts,etc… in the pensieve or something, so it would be like a giant reference book. So harry could find all of the answers and it would be like asking dumby.
he could have also made a connection like malfoy made to get the death eaters into the school. but from the dead world to the real world. so he can come back. or he may have made a horcrux. which i doubt, or it could have been like tom riddles book in the second movie.
August 7, 2005
to #23
i dont really see dumbledore making a horcrux somehow, i get the feeling that u hav to be somewhat evil to do that, and dumbledore wouldnt kill for the purpose of immortality. he wouldnt stay preaching to harry about the strenght of love is more than that of hate if he were d type to produce a horcrux
August 7, 2005
#24
Dumbledore could have made a horcrux from when he killed a death eater attacking him.
August 7, 2005
Also dumbledore may have let snape kill him for the porpose of getting closer to voldemort. If snape killed dumbledore then voldemort would trust snape. and once snape got able to be close to voldemort with nobody around he could either weaken him or kill him.
August 7, 2005
About a passage i bet that one of the trinkets in dumbledores office can do something that harry will need. but the only problem is that mcgonagall doesnt know how to use them, most likely. so harry will have to zone out inclass to hear dumbledore tell him something.
August 8, 2005
to xcelion…
i agree with u that dumbledore made snape kill him on purpose, which would explain the argument between d two, and also why dumbledore immobilised harry.
i rather think that by “please…severus” dumbledore meant please kill me, not please save my life…it seems too odd having the greatest wizard of all times begging for his life, it just doesnt fit.
during his seventh year i hav a feeling that harrry will return to hogwarts for a short time, just enough to have a chat with the dumbledore in the portrait, and yes, maybe he figures out how to use one of those weird objects in dumbledore’s office, unless that is, mcgonagall would have removed em or something of the sort
August 8, 2005
dont forget that dumbledore did kill dark wizards such as grindelaw( or something like that) Also the interview with jk proves my points, she says regulus is dead!
August 8, 2005
i think regulus had managed to get his hands on the locket with kreacher’s help, but then the deatheaters caught up wit him befor he managed to destroy it…
and i seriously doubt dumbledore has any horcruxes running around….just cos he killed it dont mean he decided to split his soul….he’s just not evil enough to do that
August 8, 2005
fine ginny, illl give up on my “dumbledore made a horcrux theory” you win that one.
August 9, 2005
Kreacher removed more than just the locket from the trash bin. I wonder if any of the other objects he removed could be horcruxes.
August 9, 2005
i think snape is going to go out looking for the horcruxes, he probly just killed dumbledore coz he asked him to do whatever it would take for the death eaters and voldemort to trust him. and he needed bellatrix to trust him so he did the unbreakable vow with narcissa.
August 9, 2005
thanks xcelion =)
to cheri @ #33
it would make harry’s life way too easy if he suddenly finds all d horcruxes in grimmauld place. also, sirius had said that d death eaters had only taken a few days to catch up with regulus….how many horcruxes could he hav found in a few days if it took dumbledore such a long time???
and yes, i agree that snape is good *nods*
August 9, 2005
I think we need a new topic to discuss now…..ill try and think of something
August 9, 2005
xcelion….how about….”why on earth didnt kreacher get beheaded yet along with his ancestors if he’s so useless?!?!” as a topic??? lol
August 9, 2005
alright, that could be something
August 9, 2005
or else how about: -
lavender, who we know is somewhat obsessed with trelawny, was once told by her to beware a red haired man - why is it that she ended up nuts over won-won? - as a topic?
yes i know these topics of mine are boring…sowwyyyyyy
August 9, 2005
screw wat i said, we can still talk about dumbledore.
August 9, 2005
i’ve just read a great theory that kreacher accompanied regulus n drank the liquid4him. that makes sense, cos regulus wouldnt respect krecher so thats why he wrote “I” on the note. as krecher is a elf itd prob let him across the water, even tho he’s magical. if its not him what dya think bout an animagis accompyin him across the water cos surely the water wouldnt realise that the animal was magical? let me no wot ya think
August 9, 2005
to xcelion - sorry mate was only jokin around a bit….
to danielle - it dont make a difference if it was elf or animagus for the boat, it could even hav been an underage wizard for all we know, like harry for example. the boat is fit for one person and not likely to detect the presence of two living beings, whatever they may be…its almost definately kreacher who accompanied regulus on his trip to retrieve the horcrux. jkr wouldnt hav entrusted the elf to harry if he didnt hav any relevance in the upcoming plot
August 9, 2005
ginny- thanks for ur comments, im still trying to get my head around all the theories. what do u think about the death of dumbledore? do u think that he or sirius could come back? i personally think not as it would go against everything that jkr has ever said about death in the magical world. apparently lilly has a big secret that is exposed in the 7th book, cant wait! let me no wot ya think
August 9, 2005
oh and by the way, kreacher has already played a big part in the sixth part, for he was ordered to follow Draco whilst in hogwarts. dobby also agreed to follow draco, though this obviously wasnt an order. as for that, who now “owns” the elves at hogwarts? McGonnagal as she is headmistress? (if she continues to be in book7) thanks let me know what you think again
August 10, 2005
i think dumbledore will come back as a ghost or at least help harry with the horcruxes as a potrait giving him hints and stuff. i also think aberforth will help harry and go with him if hes as powerful as dumbledore?
August 10, 2005
dumbledore himself tells us in book 4 (i think) that aberforth was something of an idiot, so i dont think he’l help harry much…also i dont think that dumbledore will be back physically…as regards sirius, i really hav no idea as jkr didnt give sufficient info about the veil nd stuff…personally i think she left it a bit unexplained on purpose…
the house elves at hogwarts are “owned by whoever is next headmaster/mistress…
well since slughorn spent half his teaching year rambling on about lily’s abilities at potions, and since she was in the same year at snape, then yes, she might play a very important role in book 7…..d only thing which doesnt fit is that in the pensieve harry saw snape calling his mother a mudblood, which isnt the kind thing u tell someone u like, unless that is, he was feeling doubly humitiated at being saved by a muggleborn girl
August 10, 2005
Continuation from previous e-mail 9/08/05 (Books 1 and 2)
Could not decipher any significant clues in book 3
Book 4
P23 – Harry was a 1 year old when his mother and father died.
I believe Dumbledore to be dead and his portrait will help Harry cast a memory spell, the memory of when he was 1 would then be placed in the pensieve in order to discover what exactly happened. Harry will discover he has the Ancient Magic spell of Lily in him and the horcrux Voldmort placed in him.
P557 – Voldemort used Harry blood to revive himself, this aided Voldemort as he can now touch Harry but Lily’s spell has also entered his body. This could help Harry when he fights Voldemort. When Voldemort cast spells on Harry as this also affects Voldemort.
P565 – Voldemort says
“there are 6 missing death eaters, 3 are dead,
one too cowardly to return – he will pay (Karkorff ?)
one who has left me – he will be killed (Regulus)
one who remains my faithful servant – he will re-enter my service (Snape)
Now re=reading books 5 and 6
August 10, 2005
i dont think the big secret about lilly is going to be anthing to do with snape liking her or anything like that, its too unlike jkr to do that. however i think it might be somethin to do with why james and lilly ended up together. we know from snapes memory that lilly desliked james at hogwarts, and when harry asked lupin and sirius bout it they said that they just grew up (or rather james did) and that they then fell for eachother. i think jkr hasnt gone into enough detail here and so this could have something to do with the big secret. i think snape hated james too much that he wouldnt want to like lilly knowing that james did, he would want nothing to do with either of them. wormtail is going to play a big part, he owes harry his life, and snape still owes james his, therefore since james is dead he must owe this to harry instead? god this is complicated
August 10, 2005
I can’t decide if RAB is Regulus - it does seem rather like a red herring. But I am convinced that Regulus is alive, but he didn’t go into hiding as a rock star - he’s Crookshanks! On the other board, someone mentioned the relationships of Sirius’s name meaning dog and Regulus’s meaning lion (or cat). As further evidence, I offer the following: Crookshanks has lion-like features (orange mane), he was at the magical menagerie for a LONG time (PoA), he knew how to freeze the Whomping Willow (PoA), he loved Sirius immediately (PoA, OotP) and immediately hated Scabbers (Pettigrew), and both Harry and Ron got the feeling there was something unusual about him (in PoA).
August 10, 2005
lol i like rachel’s theory about crookshanks! it would be funny really, but i dont think jkr would make crrokshanks somebody else, that story has already been done with scabbers (peter pettigrew). i think jkr is going to introduce so many new plots and suprises in book7 that none of us could have ever geussed! although the plot for book7 is set out (harry finding horcruxes and killing voldemort - hopefully!) there is undoubtedly going to be some very major twists. as many people are mentioning, it is going to be hard for jkr to put the discovery and destroyance of all horcruxes, AND the finale with voldemort AND all the other things that will need to be in there in a book that is going to be shorter than half blood prince! it doesnt make sense how even a talented writer such as jkr could do that, which is really confusing me (amongst other things obviously!)
August 10, 2005
why does it take so long for people to reply in this blog lol, only kidding just abit bored……. hehe
August 10, 2005
Sorry about that Danielle - I’ll ship some new readers straight away
I don’t have time to reply to everything, but some of the ideas people are coming up with are very interesting.
I’m going to write a post about either Dumbledore or Snape at the weekend. Not sure how interested people will be in it but it will be interesting for me to write.
August 10, 2005
Rachel does have an interesting theory and I had at one time wondered if Crookshanks might turn out to be an animagus, however, I read in an interview with JKR that Crookshanks is a Kneazle.
August 10, 2005
to Ben, lol thankyou it would be fantastic if you could do that lol. i think it is because i am in the uk and not all readers are who are in this blog site, so therefore there is a time difference, or it could just be that nobody finds my posts interesting anough to reply to! as far your theories, of course we will always want to hear about them, this is what this place is for! here from you again soon.
To Cheri, where did you read that interview? it certainly sounds interesting lol!
August 10, 2005
sorry to squash all rumours about crrokshanks being an animagus, but i have just read that this cannot be true, as jkr said this herself! any of you who do not wish to believe me can go on the mugglenet website, where you will find this! it is also a great website so have a look around!
August 10, 2005
got a brand new thoery for r.a.b, amy benson was at the orphanage with tom riddle? maybe had a first name bedore amy beginning with R? possibilty? lol
August 10, 2005
hi i read the theory from post 56 on another blog site, howver ive just thought, wasnt amy a muggle? therefore cant be her lol
August 11, 2005
Hi Danielle
I’ve not used a blog before and did not know you actually reply to people. You and the others on the site have come up with some great theories and I agree with RAB being Regulus Black.
In your message dated 9/8/05 you mention Lily’s big secret. I posted my first message to this site on that date but it has not come up yet. It explains my theory on Lily’s secret. So I hope it gets posted soon, would like to know your views on it.
I’m off work at the moment as I tore some ligaments in my ankle, so all I’ve been thinking about is theories on book 7.
August 11, 2005
To Danielle
I believe I read it on Mugglenet, but can not be sure. Even though I have been a big HP fan, I have just started going on to websites since reading book 6 and have read so many things recently I am not sure.
August 11, 2005
To Danielle
I just remembered where I read that Crookshanks is part Kneazle. JKRowling.com
August 11, 2005
hi cheri, i am also a big fan of mugglenet, and after posting that blog, i went on for a casusal look and found on there that Crookshanks is actually half Kneazle. jkr however has stated that crrokshanks is definately not an animagus.
to Joy Anthony, thankyou for your views and welcome to this blog site! my first post didnt appear either, but my second one (and every one ever since) has appeared straight away! so i think you could be wise in writing your theory about Lilly again… Sorry! i am very interested in all the different things to do with the different topics in hp! however please do not say that snape is going to be harrys father because i simply cannot cope with that theory any longer! lol! again, check out mugglenet for confirmation that JAMES IS HARRYS FATHER!!!
August 12, 2005
Hi Danielle
Thanks for replying, I’m way behind you lot and have got a lot of catching up to do (mugglenet and Kneale?)
No Snape def not Harry’s father. My opinion is changing on the 3 deatheaters I mention in 47, as I am suspicious of Fudge now.
My previous message:-
Book 1
P153 – Both of Harry’s parents had green eyes
Yet we are constantly reminded in other books Harry’s eyes are like Lily’s??
(confused as book 5 says James’ eyes are hazel?)
P213 – Voldemort asked Harry to join his side.
Voldemort said “your mother needn’t of died, she was trying to protect you.â€
Did Lily cast the Ancient Magic spell that put part of her soul (love - eyes are the mirror to your soul) into Harry, thus sacrificing her life and counteracting Voldemort’s spell (Horcrux).
P217 – Dumbledore explained to Harry that James saved Snape’s life therefore was indebted to the Potters. Snape had to begrudgingly aid Harry until (book 6 – unbreakable vow). Snape saw his chance to finish Dumbledore and joined forces with Voldemort. (not sure about this theory now)
Be glad to hear anyone’s view.
Cheers Joy
August 12, 2005
I also think that dumbledore is actually dead and is not coming back. Although it would be nice if he did, i think that jkr wants to have harry face voldy in book 7 alone.
August 12, 2005
oh, if the comment i said previous didn’t come through, i think harry i a horcrux of voldemort. It makes sense because harry has voldemorts special powers, like parseltongue. harry also has although those strange and sudden insights into voldy’s feelings.
August 12, 2005
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Yes I agree with you, the horcrux is the connection with Harry and voldemort, but i also think part of Lily’s soul is in him. The amount of informatin on mugglenet is huge, reading it is making me very confused. So i’m going back to the books - again.
August 12, 2005
how come my messages come up on this page but not the other one ???
August 12, 2005
to post 64, the reasons why Harry can experience all of those things have already been explained thoroughly by jkr in previous books, and although other reasons (such as Harry being a horcrux) might add to this, i think that it will basically be due to the reasons she has given already. i personally dont think Harry is likely to be a Horcrux. as dumbledore explained to harry, it wouldnt be wise to make a human being a horcrux, as they have their own mind and can therefore end up destroying this part of the soul, and voldemort would not want harry to act on his own, and so wouldnt want to make him a horcrux, if that makes sense? also, Voldmort would not have been able to make harry a horcrux after he attempted to kill him, as he was next to nothing. therefore the only way he could have possibly made him a horcrux was before he used the avada kedevra curse, which i dont think Voldemort would have been stupid enough to do. (for reasons stated above). everybody knows (for even Voldemort has admitted) that it was his KILLING curse that failed to work, and therefore made him weak, and so he couldnt have made him into a horcrux whilst attempting to kill him, as we already know that this cannot be done accidently, as you have to use a special spell. obviously this is just all my opinon, and knowing jkr there will probabloy be a big loophole in this thoery and harry will probably turn it to actually be a horcrux! Let me know what u think ta. P.S - Harry and Ginny forever, hope they are back together soon, bless them
August 13, 2005
not sure if my first post came up but anyway on to the next one….
going all the way back to comment #1:
“Miss figg, harry’s neighbour is definetley someone in disguise using polyjuice..the smell of cabbage, polyjuice smells like cabbage… That is why I think its aberforth.. DDs brother…. ”
on mugglenet it says “Cat Lovers - Argus Filch, Arabella Figg: both have the same initials, both are squibs, and both love cats!”
so maybe she’s filch in disguise…not too sure bout this but i’v read some wilder n wackyer theories than this before!! what do you think?
August 13, 2005
in reply to #47
“P565 – Voldemort says
“there are 6 missing death eaters, 3 are dead,
one too cowardly to return – he will pay (Karkorff ?)
one who has left me – he will be killed (Regulus)
one who remains my faithful servant – he will re-enter my service (Snape) ”
I agree that the death eater too cowardly to return is Karkaroff but I thought that when Voldemort is speaking of the death eater that has left him he was referring to Snape and the death eater who remained his faithful servant was Crouch, disguised as Moody. I could be wrong but that was how I interpreted it.
And looking back at the Filch/Figg thing it does sound a little to crazy to be true! never mind, it was a thought!
August 13, 2005
rachael
Thanks for your comments re 47
I have changed my opinion now
1 coward - snape
1 who left - regulus
1 faithful servant - Fudge
I hope this won’t change again - and am slowly going through 5 and 6 for more clues.
I also am supicious of Filch and Scrimgeour
Figg - I don’t know what to think about that.
There are 7 registered animagus - her love of cats.
It would be great to think Harry would have some help from aberforth.
Rachael, what do you think about Lily’s soul also being in Harry?
August 13, 2005
Joy Anthony
Sorry I don’t really think that Harry has Lily’s soul in him…in book 4 Voldemort says that Lily’s sacrifice ‘unwittingly’ gave Harry the protection so it doesn’t sound like she consciously did a spell to give him the protection….and if Harry had Lily’s soul or part of her soul then wouldnt that make Harry a horcrux for her? so she wouldn’t be dead (and she is) so…..i dont no
But one thing that i’m curious about to do with Lily…Voldemort said she didn’t have to die, so does that mean he wouldn’t have killed her if she hadn’t tried to protect Harry? She was muggle-born so surely he would have killed her anyway?
About Harry being a horcrux…..sorry Im not agreeing with that theory either…i agree with what Danielle said about what Dumbledore told Harry. “as dumbledore explained to harry, it wouldnt be wise to make a human being a horcrux, as they have their own mind and can therefore end up destroying this part of the soul, and voldemort would not want harry to act on his own, and so wouldnt want to make him a horcrux,”
Oh and I’m sure Petunia has a part to play in the last book…she definately knows something and seems to have cared about Lily no matter what she says. Not sure what tho…any suggestions??
August 13, 2005
i now feel that snapes is actually on the orders side side and is protecting harry. As in the 1st book Dumdbledore tells harry how james (his father) saved snapes life, and that snape wants to repay his debt by protecting harry
August 14, 2005
I’m still with the idea that snape is good and just trying to make it look like he was evil so that he could keep protecting harry.
In reply to #70, i dont think fudge is with voldemort.
I also dont think that voldemort would use harry as a horcrux seeing as how hes constantly trying to kill him.
August 14, 2005
With Regards to Harry being the Horcrux, I would much rather say that Harry’s “scar” is the Hoarcrux. Which would rule out his willfully being able to destroy it.
However, what better way to save your life than make it dependant upon the life of the guy that’s supposed to kill you?
Once Lily sacrificed herself to save Harry (Her needless death) Voldemort had killed her and his father (Necessary for making a Horcrux) which is Harry’s Scar, not his person.
7 Horcruxes 3 have been destroyed (1 having belonged to a Hogwarts House Originator) [7-3=4]
3 more Houses, [4-3=1] Which has me thinking it’s Harry’s Scar.
What will Harry have to do to destroy Voldemort for good? And what is said in the Prophecy about it?
Also Snape is still a good guy, Total Jerk! But a good guy.
August 14, 2005
Also if Regulus had found the other Horcruxes, I wonder if MungDungus has now sold them to other people, after Raiding 12 Grimauld Place….
Bokk 7 will definately be interesting…
August 14, 2005
hi, me again! i love harry potter im 11 and i started no 6 at5.00 sat and finnished it at roughly 3.00 the next day.I love reading! I cried when dumbles died i expexted for him to come back in the same book but i reached the end before i knew it !I still get teary eyed each time i read it !
August 14, 2005
Rachael, Callum and Mightmouse,
Theory 2
Voldemort had killed harry’s father (horcux can be cast when a killing has been committed).
What if harry was holding a watch, voldemort tried to cast his horcrux on it, Lily stepped in to protect harry and she died and the horcrux spell went through Lily and into Harry. Thus transferring Voldemort’s and lily’s soul.
The watch: book 1 Dudley’s birthday he is openning his present unwraped a watch, his mum walked in looking angry and worried. The watch is the precious thing from Griffindor.
Theory 1
As above - but Harry is the precious thing from griffindor, he is the descendant from godric. As Voldemort was also a descendant - voldemort marked harry as his equal.
Which which theory sounds best??
This is all guess work.
August 14, 2005
Kent Jones
You’re on the ball!
I belive the seven horcruxes to be:-
1. the diary (destroyed)
2. The ring (destroyed)
3. The Locket (either with Kreacher / Mundungus / 12 Grimmauld)
4. Huff cup at Hogwarts (room of requirement)
5. Ravenclaw’s precious item with Luna (book 5 things of hers go missing but are returned - someone searching)
6. HARRY’S SCAR (WELL DONE KENT)
7. VOLDEMORT
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
August 14, 2005
Also, when Voldemort’s Avada Kedavra reflected on to him, wouldn’t that have used up one of his horcruxes?
August 14, 2005
my thoery is:
voldermort cast the last horcrux on harry thinking that harry would be on his side. in book six voldermort said:
snape is the coword
regulusis the betrayer and
fudge will renter his servise
August 14, 2005
Another thing that has been bugging me. Dumbledore insinuates that Voldemort cursed the Defense Against the Dark Arts position and he has since been unable to hold a teacher for more than a year:
“Was he after the Defense Against the Dark Arts job again, sir? He didn’t say…” “Oh, he definitely wanted the Defense Against the Dark Arts job,” said Dumbledore. “The aftermath of our little meeting proved that. You see, we have never been able to keep a Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher for longer than a year since I refused the post to Lord Voldemort.” (HBP pg 446/418)
Yet we know that Quirrel had the job for at least 2, so Voldemort must have cursed it while Quirrel still held it which we know is impossible as he had no body at that time.
This just goes to show that we can’t put too much stock into what’s been said in the book because there can still be holes.
August 14, 2005
I’m pretty sure my first post isn’t going to get through so here’s a bare bones version.
#69 - I agree with rachel with karakoff as the coward. Snape as the one who left. And Crouch Jr. as the faithful one.
#3 - the inquierer says that Regulus couldn’t be alive because then #12 Grimmauld place would have gone to him, which is true. However, this doesn’t necessarily stop him from being RAB because RAB says in his note “I know I will be dead long before you read this”
Just in general here, nowhere does is say Harry HAS to kill Voldemort or vice versa, it just says “neither can live while the other survives”. This could mean anything. All that has to happen is one of them must die by any means.
August 14, 2005
Fact
Snape knew – Remus, James, Sirius, Lily and Peter at Hogwarts.
Snape became a deatheater.
Pure speculation
Snape loved Lily – lily pitied Snape and loved James.
Snape tried to befriend Lily, he searched through records and found out she was a descendant of godric griffindor. Either Lily knew this or Snape told her, either way she wanted to keep it her secret. She persuaded Snape not to tell anyone. See 77 theories 1 or 2)
3 missing deatheaters
Snape overheard the prophecy “The one with the power ………….â€
Snape reported this to Voldemort, Vol asked Snape which boy this referred to Neville or Harry. Snape did not know – Vol read his mind (Harry descendant of godric) Snape did not wanted to pass this info on but Vol forced his mind. Snape ran from all the deatheaters and was branded a coward. Snape ran to Dumbledore for help but too late Vol had done the dirty deed – marking Harry his equal and killing lily in the process. She sacrificed herself for Harry and passed her soul into him giving him “the power the Dark Lord knows not ……â€
Snape is the COWARD – he promised Dumbledore to help the Order of the Ph and work as a double agent for them.
Regulus found out that Harry, a child would be used to store Vol’s horcrux and did not agree with this, he took the locket and left this at 12 Grim place he died trying to defeat Vol.
Regulus the ONE WHO LEFT VOL.
THE ONE WHO WILL RE-ENTER MY SERVICE – either Fudge or Scrimgeour
This spy works in the Ministry of Magic reasons:-
1. This person ordered the two Dementors to attack harry (book 4)
2. This person ordered the Dementors to leave Azkarban unguarded
3. B Bode witnessed this event, but met with a tragic accident
4. This person sent the devils snare to Bode to kill him
5. This person arrested Stan Shunpike because he guessed who the spy was
6. Luna Lovegood also states she does not trust the certain members in the ministry.
August 14, 2005
About the seven Horcruxes…
I agrree with most of them; the ones we definatly no about are the diary, the ring, the locket, Hufflepuffs cup and the piece in Voldemort himself. Another is probably something of Ravenclaws but didn’t Dumbledore say that the snake Nagini was a horcrux too?
Im not sure about Harry being a horcrux but im changing my opinion so that I don’t have one now about it! But since Harry’s scar is part of Harry then if his scar is a horcrux then wouldnt Harry be too? Isnt that the same thing?
Oh and I reckon the locket is still in 12 Grimmauld place or with Kreacher, i dont think mundungus would have sold it.
August 14, 2005
Also, Snape is defintiely a goody. Dumbledore pleaded with Snape to kill, becasue he didn’t want a death eater to do it, and so he could continue to be a double for the order, and Snape had a look of “revulsion and hatred” on his face, because he knew what he had to do - kill Dumbledore - and he didn’t want to. I refuse to believe that Snape is a baddy! But on the Snape point, Dumbledore made him DAD teach this year, despite the fact that he knew the job is cursed, (chapter 20 - “we have never been able to keep a DAD teacher for longer than a year since I refused the post to Lord V.”) Perhaps he knew what would happen. Just something I thought was wierd.
August 14, 2005
I still dont think that voldemort would use harry as a horcrux since he has tried to kill him in every book.
Also, i have a feeling that one of the horcruxes is a snake. I remember reading about one in book 4 when voldemort is in that house with wormtail and harry’s scar was hurting. And i think that ones the snake because voldemort himself is a parseltounge so he could communicate with it and maybe have a death eater protect it.
Let me know what you think.
August 14, 2005
I definitely agree that Harry is a Horcrux too. In book six, Dumbledore says, about making a living thing into a Horcrux, “it is inadvisable to do so…it is obviously a very risky business.” Thus, V was nearly killed when he made harry a Horcrux. Dumbledore also says, “V was still at least one Horcrux short of his goal of six when he entered your parents’ house.” It totally fits. It would also account for the whole Harry being able to sense V’s feelings thing. Fantastic storyline.
August 14, 2005
mightymouse
When Vol cast the Horcrux Harry was a child, vol perceived him as weak, Vol throught that he could control Harry maybe. Dumbledore was not completely sure about the other horcruxes. I think.
August 14, 2005
Fact
Snape knew – Remus, James, Sirius, Lily and Peter at Hogwarts.
Snape became a deatheater.
Pure speculation
Snape loved Lily – lily pitied Snape and loved James.
Snape tried to befriend Lily, he searched through records and found out she was a descendant of godric griffindor. Either Lily knew this or Snape told her, either way she wanted to keep it her secret. She persuaded Snape not to tell anyone.
3 missing deatheaters
Snape overheard the prophecy “The one with the power ………….â€
Snape reported this to Voldemort, Vol asked Snape which boy this referred to Neville or Harry. Snape did not know – Vol read his mind (Harry descendant of godric) Snape did not wanted to pass this info on but Vol forced his mind. Snape ran from all the deatheaters and was branded a coward. Snape ran to Dumbledore for help but too late Vol had done the dirty deed – marking Harry his equal and killing lily in the process. She sacrificed herself for Harry and passed her soul into Harry giving him “the power the Dark Lord knows not ……†(see 77 theory 1 or 2)
Snape is the COWARD – he promised Dumbledore to help the Order of the Ph and work as a double agent for them.
Regulus found out that Harry, a child would be used to store Vol’s horcrux and did not agree with this, he took the locket and left this at 12 Grim place he died trying to defeat Vol.
Regulus the ONE WHO LEFT VOL.
THE ONE WHO WILL RE-ENTER MY SERVICE – either Fudge or Scrimgeour
This spy works in the Ministry of Magic reasons:-
1. This person ordered the two Dementors to attack harry (book 4)
2. This person ordered the Dementors to leave Azkarban unguarded
3. B Bode witnessed this event, but met with a tragic accident
4. This person sent the devils snare to Bode to kill him
5. This person arrested Stan Shunpike because he guessed who the spy was
6. Luna Lovegood also states she does not trust the certain members in the ministry.
August 14, 2005
Joy Anthony
About your theory about the connection between Harry having Lily’s eyes….I was reading an interview with JkR on http://www.quick-quote-quill.o... n i found this…
Are there any special wizarding powers in your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something?
JKR: Why do you want to know this?
Well because everyone always go on about how Harry’s got Lily Potter’s eyes.
JKR: Aren’t you smart - there is something, maybe coming about that, I’m going to say no more - very clever.
….not sure what it means but would seem to support your theory….
August 14, 2005
this is getting too crazy for me…..im not gonna post here. i got lost at post number 41….cya
August 14, 2005
I think Harry is a descendant of godric griffindor, specially as his parents lived in godric’s hollow….but im still sticking with the three deatheaters as being:
Coward: Karkaroff
One who left Voldemort: Snape
One who re-entered his service: Crouch
August 14, 2005
Rachael
Refer 62 old saying “the eyes are the window to your soul”
August 14, 2005
My theory is:
Voldemort cast the last horcux on harry thinking that harry would be on Voldemort side.
Voldemort said there are 3 missing deatheaters
The coward – Snape
The betrayer – Regulus
The one to re enter my service - Fudge
August 14, 2005
Joy Anthony…
Your argument for Fudge or Scrimgoer to be with Voldy because someone sent 2 Dementors to attak Harry…we already know that was Umbridge. She admitted to it. And as far as Lilly being a descendant of Gryffindor…she was muggle born. That is mentioned a number of times!!!
August 14, 2005
Heidi,
Umbridge could be working for Fudge or Scrimgeour. After all if she did it why is she still working for the Ministry and not been fired.
How much do we know about Lily’s ancestors before her parents?
Could the wizard gene skip generations??
89 is only speculation - Just my thoughts
August 14, 2005
I dont think dumbledore is dead. There have been so many references between pheonixs and him even during his funeral to possibly ignore the fact that he might make a return in a big way.
August 14, 2005
It’s been said that the name regulus refers to lions and that scrimgeour look like a lion. Possible connection?
August 14, 2005
#96
“Could the wizard gene skip generations”
Then Lily’s parents would have been squibs, right?
Also, pureblood familys (the Malfoys, Wesleys, Blacks) don’t skip generations.
August 14, 2005
99
I don’t have all the answers?
But could Lily have been adopted and noone knows her true parentage.
My Brain is befuddled , now
August 14, 2005
joy anthony
i agree with your comment .i think lily has been adopted and noone knows true parentage
August 14, 2005
Maybe it was James who was Gryffindor descendant? Seeing as he was pure-blood (i think) wouldn’t that make more sense?
August 14, 2005
Im still convinced the death eater that Voldemort said had ‘already re-entered’ his service is Crouch Jnr cause Voldemort said that he was at Hogwarts (disguised as Moody using polyjuice potion) and that it was by his (the death eater’s) actions that Harry was there i.e. by Crouch/Moody turning the cup into a portkey and making sure Harry won the tournament.
And if Voldemort had been talking about regulus being the betrayer then wouldn’t he have said that he was dead? Voldemort mention 6 death eaters altogether; the first three he said were dead in his service; but he didnt say that the others were dead (in fact didn’t he say that the coward n betrayer would be killed, implying that they were both still alive?)
August 14, 2005
Rachael you could be correct
Another theory
Slughorn told Harry - Lily was top of the class in potions. Snape was also good as Harry has his potions book.
Could snape have been fed up of the others teasing him and given Lily a potion. James got angry and tried to get back a snape, this resulted in something dangerous happenning. James saved Snapes’s life
August 14, 2005
Joy,
As I understand it, one of the Horcruxes was the Naghini (Snake in book 2) That has been destroyed.
Also As I understand it Voldemort had 6 Horcruxes completed at the time he went to Kill Harry.
When he realized that he couldn’t kill Harry he instead created His final Horcrux, Harry’s Scar. Hopeful The sacrifice would be too much for HArry to make to finally destroy Voldemort once and for all…
Pure Speculation of course, but the facts add up don’t they?
August 14, 2005
In case anyone’s interested I searched for horcruxes on google n i found this on wikipedia (i was quite impressed that it had an entry!)
“Another possibility not mentioned in the books is that when Tom Riddle returned to Hogwarts to request the DADA position he formed a horcrux from his Award for Special Services to Hogwarts. Either way, all horcruxes have a special meaning to Voldemort, whether it be from a founder of Hogwarts where he felt most at home, or from a trophy of his torturous actions.”
Don’t know what to think about this. Any thoughts?
August 14, 2005
Kent Jones
Nagini, the snake, is still alive n therefore still a horcrux (if it was ever made one).
August 14, 2005
i’m a little confused on the horcrux issue. I understand that Vold wanted 7 b/c it is a powerful number. But if it is Harry, why? He was a baby! Or was it totally by accident?
Another thought. In book 1, it was mentioned that Harry’s wand was made from a phoenix tail feather. The only other wand to have a feather from that same phoenix was the one that belongs to Vold. Is there any chance at all that the wand itself could be part of this horcrux story?
August 14, 2005
#106 I like that idea
Some people have suggested (here and on other boards) that RAB could be a (or more than 1) member of the order, Remus or Sirus,for example. If RAB is part of the order, wouldn’t Dumbledore know about the Horcruxes (and not really need the memory form Slug) and know that the locket was already gone?
August 14, 2005
Voldemort (may have) only made 6 horcruxes. The seventh part “lived” inside him. Therefore, the Ring, Locket and Cup would be three. The diary (from book 2) would be four. Any object of Ravenclaw and Gryfindor’s would be five and six. If no object of Gryfindor’s (or Ravenclaw) was found, and Nigini was a horcrux that would still be six, right?
Also one of the other things that people have repeted several times is that Voldemort was still missing one of his six Horcruxes when he killed the Potters. Dumbledore said this, but he said IF. therefore he could be wrong. Therefore we don’t if how many horcruxes were made.
Would the part of Voldemorts soul in his old body have ‘died’ when the body was lost? In a ‘normal’ person,when the body dies, does the soul die?And in that case would the horcrux act like a backup soul?
August 15, 2005
Rachael
Thought about #106. If he wanted a horcrux to be a trophy of his opening of the Chamber wouldn’t the diary be one?
August 15, 2005
106
i dont think the special services could be a horcrux because he takes really gd care of them and so he wouldnt just leave them in the skool.
when voldemort died the part of his soul inside his body was set free and this is what he was trying to save by possessing quirrel and drinking unicorns blood i dont think he used a horcrux
August 15, 2005
#77-
i don’t think that the watch had anything to do with it. petunia was just extremely disturbed with the fact that that ms. figg was gone and couldn’t watch harry while they went to the zoo, so they had to bring him along
August 15, 2005
what if voldemort hid at least one horcrux in the room of requirement,well, dumby probably would have found it by then and destroyed it. maybe dumby couldn’t get into the room because he couldn’t find what tom riddle or voldemort thought to get into the room he wanted. it could be a possibility that alot of the artifacts from grime. place or at least one is hidden there. i don’t think mundungus got his hands on any of the horcruxes whether he knew he did or not, but maybe if kreacher is comunicating with or is regulous. he could be putting things in the room of requirement for regulous or just because he wants to save them whether he knows they’re a horcrux(s) or not. all he has to do is apparate and he can get into the castle fom #12. there are too many possibilities for kreacher. maybe he’s just a crazed house elf who wants to be dead. maybe he’s is connected to very powerful and important people, maybe not. (?)
August 15, 2005
rachael
refer 102 if the Griffindor descendant were through the Potter family, everyone would possibly know and the potter family would be reknowned for jit’s ancestry.
August 15, 2005
hey joy anthony what do u think of this-
idk who lily is related to and i dont even know if she is really muggle born, nor does anybody else. but i think harry is voldemort’s grandnephew. in book 2 when harry is talking to dobby at the dursleys dobby tells harry that bad things will be happening at hogwarts this year adn it will be especially dangerous for harry to return.
-harry asks dobby if the warning he has just given him has anythign to do with u-know-who
-dobby answers,”no, not he who must not be named”, but his eyes are wide open(and u know how big his eyes are), he is trying to suggest something to harry.
- we know what it is. the warning has something to do with tom riddle (and yes, he can be named)
- then harry asks dobby another question: “he hasn’t got a brother, has he?” (strange question, by the way. is only planted there for future revalation?)
- again, dobby shakes his head, but his eyes are wide open, wider than ever, as if he were trying to suggest something else to harry, something most important : we still dont know what it is.
i have theory, but i would like to hear what u think( or read/see. w/e)
August 15, 2005
o sorry- not enough info
- if dobby were feeling free to speek i think it would’ve looked like this…
-voldemort has no brother(so dobby’s answer is true, strictly speaking)…but he has a sister. voldemorts sister married a wizard named potter. she became the mother of james potter! so, if i am correct, voldemort is james’ uncle, and harry’s great uncle. as dobby is malfoy’s house elf, he is likely to know a secret like this: (malfoy, after all, was in voldemort’s “inner circle”
August 15, 2005
is anybody there
August 15, 2005
i have a ton of theories but nobodies talking
August 15, 2005
Kansas
I don’t think that is possible. Riddle’s diary was 50 years old in the second book. The potions book the HBP had was also 50 years old. Since the pensieve showed Snape (the HBP) and James in the same year, James was at Hogwarts 50 years ago, around the time Riddle was there. Voldemort’s sister would half to be about 15 years older than Voldemort, and would have had a child VERY young. Possible, but unlikley.
However, this sister (or cousin if it was morfin’s child) could be Lilly Potter, couldn’t it??? Lilly (or Petunia) could be an adopted child, couldn’t she???
August 15, 2005
#110
The part of Voldemorts soul in his body was the part that survived when the curse rebounded, it was the rest of him that was destroyed, but as all his horcruxes werent destroyed the part in him couldnt be, so that part didnt die along with his body….i think..
August 15, 2005
Rachael
So if one hasn’t made a horcrux, there soul floats around after their body dies? Is it the soul that goes behind the black veil in the minister?
August 15, 2005
were James and Lily at Hogwarts 50 years ago? That sounds like a long while ago if Harry is 16/17 .
August 15, 2005
sorry
#122 was supposed to say viel in the ministery, not minister
August 15, 2005
if they havent made a horcrux then i suppose that their soul goes to heaven (or hell) or whatever you beleive in…i dont think this is covered in the book…
August 15, 2005
The pensieve that harry entered in snapes office showed Snape and James (and Lilly) after taking the OWLs. It showed that they were at hogwarts at the same time.
Harry (i think) said the the HBP’s potions book was 50 years old. (i’ll look this up)
August 15, 2005
o ya and what’s theis i hear about dumbledore being ron weasley all grwn up. anyone else hear that
August 15, 2005
Im sure i remember that JKR has said in interviews that Dumbledore is not Harry or Ron from the future.
August 15, 2005
#125
at the end of book 5, harry asks nick (the goast) about death. Nick says that when one dies there is a choice to make. Nick’s life was ended before he was ready to die, and he chose to remain on earth as a goast. He says he knows little else about death.
Should this be believed, and might it have any relevance to the 7th book?
August 15, 2005
uh…”u (don’t) know who”-
what if the potions book was snape’s mother’s book while she was at hogwarts. would that work. he could have been very poor like the weasleys, and had to have his mom’s old book
August 15, 2005
I think it’d probably be true…why would he lie?
I think ‘death’ will be important in the 7th book (as a theme- Voldemort is scared/unwilling to die but Dumbledore said there are worse things than death - i think this will be expanded on) but not if there is an afterlife/whatever happens after death.
August 15, 2005
also when harry reads the name riddle in the diary for the first time he feels like he knows the person, like they were an old friend. (”… as though riddle was a friend he’d had when he was very small
August 15, 2005
kansas
page 563 of HBP (last paragraph)
“‘It was i who invented them (the spells including levicorpus and sectumsempra)- I, the half-blood Prince!”‘
Snape says that his name is the Half-Blood Prince.
Hermiony also says that Snape’s mom was a (pure) witch named Prince and father was a muggle.
Half-(the) blood (of a) Prince
August 15, 2005
It would make sense that the book was Eileen Princes (was that her name? Snapes mother anyway)
about post #132
Maybe it was the link to Voldemort thru Harrys scar that made him recognise the name?
August 15, 2005
i can’t find the part that said the Prince’s book was 50 years old. I may be wrong about that.
August 15, 2005
waht if voldemort’s quest to imortality includes killing all people blood relate to him.this would explain y voldemort didn’t intend to kill lily, just james. maybe james’ parents were killed by voldemort. this may be y there is little written about them. or voldemort had to kill his father and all his father’s descendants(except him of course). killing them is just part (although a necessary part) of the path that leads to immortality.i suppose voldemort was taught during his final years at hogwarts how to become immortal:teh master who taught him was the dark wizard grindewald, just before dumbledore defeated him in 1945.(jkr gave us his name in book 1: so, i think geindewald must have had a role somehow, and the year 1945 fits very well with the end of tom riddle’s studies at hogwarts.) the “path to immortality” ust involve rituals of dark magic, of extreme complexity.. i think the transformations that made tom riddle almost unrecodnizable when he came back as lord voldemortwere part of the process.
brb to finish gotta check somthin…
August 15, 2005
Kansas
Ilike your theroy, but Voldemort didn’t kill morfin, he framed him after stealing his ring. The only other flaw that i see is that Siruis said his mother didn’t approve of him being friends with the Potters. If the potters were related to Slytherin, that shouldn’t have been a problem.
August 15, 2005
About Dumbledore apparently killing the dark wizard Grindewald…the word used (i believe) is “defeated” not killed (Dumbledore is most famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindewald in 1945 -or something like that) Also Dumbledore says there are much worse things than death and he doesnt try to kill Voldemort at the end of bk 5….So maybe Dumbledore didnt kill Grindewald.
August 15, 2005
hey u (don’t) know who. do u think harry may have other siblings, possibly at hogwarts, i personally think that it is very possible that either hermione or ginny is harry’s sister. i have clues and some proof to back it up, but what do u think
August 15, 2005
maybe he just has to eliminate his relatives or they have to die . and morfin did eventually die didn’t he
August 15, 2005
i think all the possibilities i thought about harry adn hermy being siblings were just shattered. there’s no way hermione is 9 or more months older than harry
August 15, 2005
#140 yes morfin did die in Azkaban
#139 is a neat idea. however, Hermoine would have to be a twin sister, and Ginny would be diffult because James and lilly were dead. Unless u think the Potters live.
August 15, 2005
exactly #145
that eliminates ginny
consider this story:
james potter is feeling worried, as never before in his life…
he has just left school and married lily, and dumdledore has considered that it is time to tell of his terrible secret.SO, the dark lord’s true family name is “riddle”, just as his own mother. noe, james knows he is the last relative of voldemort; and he knows he is voldemort’s target for that reason.
what can he do then? james has great courage, but the future of all mankind is at stake, not only his own life.
if voldemort ever finds him, and kills him, all will be lost:
the dark lord will be immortal, and no one- not even dumbledore- will ever be able to defeat him. the age of darkness will begin. and it will last forever.
unless…
of course. there is only one thing he can do.
the potter’s understand that they should have children, several if possible, and a.s.a.p. futhermore, they should not keep all their children in the same place.
so, i thinkit is at least a possibility that harry may have a brother or sister, who the potters would have hidden as soon as he or she was born, and who would have lived with adoptive parents ever sisnce.
i know… supposing hrmione is harry’s sister is very starwars like. and yet, y not?
could hermione be harry’s sister? is it even possible. i know she was born is september, and harry was born in july. it seems logical to suppose that hermione is 10 months older than harry rather than 2 months younger. (this is a fact actually, because she was old enough to take her apparation test and harry wasn’t, she has to be older).(so they were both eleven years old on sep. 1st, the year they enterd hogwarts). in that case, the brother sister thing is not completely impossisble. a ten month difference(nearly 10.5 months in fact) is a very short time indeed, but remember, suppose lily and james were in a hurry.
i have much more what do u think so far
August 15, 2005
ok.
r u suggesting that Hermoine was adopted by her current parents?
Why wasn’t James in slytherin, if he was the heir to Salizar Sylitherin?
Your right about the 10 months, i had forgoten that
August 15, 2005
A thought to bere in mind. We all could be reading into clue that are mistakes. We know that some mistakes were made by JK. It is possible that the family ties are not mixed up in weird ways. We could be misreading these clues
THIS IS ALL GUESSWORK, RIGHT????
August 15, 2005
harry and hermione. is there only frens==dship between them? or something else? anyways they are very close friends at the very least.
ron and hermione are quite obviously attracted to eachother; their quarrels might be an indication that they will end up together or maybe not.
the harry-harmione relation is very different:they seem somehow “naturally”, almost instinctively close to eachother. quite often, each of them seems to know what the other is thinking.
i think this should mean something important:
August 15, 2005
Ginny also has this type of relationship with Hermione until the end of HBP, when they fight.
Ginny Fred and George also. I know they are family though.
Ron and harry do seem to be very good friends, were from the off.
Remeber in the first part of book 1, Ron Harry and hermione were NOT friends. They only became friends with Hermiony after the troll.
August 15, 2005
Also, i think some of the fights between Ron and Hermione are because Hermione is jelouse. I think she likes Ron. The big fight in HBP was because Ron was going out with Lavender. That is also why (i think) she would refer to ron, sometimes, as Won-Won.
In the Goblet of Fire (book 4), the fight was over victor Krum. Ron may have been jelouse of Krum because he was going out (or atleast to the danse) with Hermione.
August 15, 2005
-either it means that they will fall in love in the next books, and end up together. this is a real possibilitie, and the kiss hermione gives harry at the end of book 4 might be the beginning, but i reckon a ron-hermione romance is more probable.
_ or it means that there is “something else” between them. of course, the brother sister theory would fit perfectly
so, let’s see. if harry and hermione are siblings, then the granger’s are hermione’s adoptive parents. maybe they are real muggles,m maybe they are just pretending. who knows the truth abought hermione?
obviously harry has no clue; i think dumbledore knows the truth, as do a few other teachers(at least lupin and mcgonagall) and probably serious.
the grangers must know, and another idea is that hermione herself knows the truth. after all, we know hermione is able to keep a secret(time turner)
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August 15, 2005
in responce to 155, i think hermione was attempting to befriend them from the start don’t u think. i have alot of gathered clues as well, but yes this is all guesswork. but everything said on this chat is guesswork isn’t it unless u or i were jkr ourselves
August 15, 2005
here are some gathered clues:
-a minor physical resemblance, they are both unable to comb their hair
-at the beginning of book one, before harry and hermione become friends, before they even really know eachother, hermione’s behavior is a bit excesive, she keeps infering in harry’s affairs, much more then anybody else(except for i personally think, dumbledore), even ron’s.:
“i can’t beliseve you are going to do this harry.”
(harry and ron are leaving gryfindor’s tawer at night, y do u think she only sais this to harry?)
i know it’s hermione’s nature to be quite interfering, but i think itis a bit too much. however,if harry is herl little brother, AND she knows, her behaviour is understandable.
-BIG HINT: in book two, just after hermione and penelope have been petrified, profesor mcg. goes straight to harry:
“potter, i think you’d better come with me”
y, i don’t think it is just because hermione is just his friend: she would have asked ron as well. but no, she doesn’t care about ron, only after her and harry are returning to the castle does ron come running up to them, does she agree:
“yes, perhaps you’d better come too, weasley”(not the “perhaps…too”
quite strange isn’t it? but mcg. know that harry and hermione are siblings, so her behaviour is normal
…….
August 15, 2005
in book 3 while they are fighting the boggart lupin doesn’t allow harry to fight it because he thinks it will take the form of voldemort, but y doesn’t he let hermione fight it, i think that lupin (knowing they are siblings) didn’t let hermione fight because he is afraid it will reveal something revealing about her past and quite possibly harry and her. also, in book five wehn she finally fights a boggart during exams she is alone, but i heard that her staory to ron and harry about it was a little rediculous, but when i went to find her story, i couldn’t, could u help me find it, i have the book right here… (i’ve more clues)
August 15, 2005
you’re probably right,but tell what u think this means:
in book four when harry is being interviewed by rita skeeter about hagrid, rita skeeter asks harry,”would u call hagrid a father substitute?”hermione’s reaction to this is extremely violent;she stands up,”very abruptly, her butterbeer clutched in her hand as if were a grenade.”
why?after all, these words were nothing worse than what rita had been saying before.
obviously it is the words,”father substitute” that caused hermione’s reaction. i think this is because she has been raised by adoptive parents, and knows it. (????????????)
November 26, 2005
Things to bare in mind while trying to guess how´s R.A.B and how the book is to end:
We certenly know that Rab new what he was going to find in the cave: otherwise he wouldn´t have been able to make more of green potion (and the antidote too). He also knew which of the Horcrux´s was to be found in the cave since he has a similar substitute for the Slytherin´s thing, so he might also have known where the other hrx´s where.
Besides trying to find the full name t rab i wonder where and how is harry going to (first) figure out how to find them, and (second) how is he going o match Lord Voldemort on his own,
I guess that more nasty deaths are to come, and the following are going to hurts as, even more than Dd´s death, (otherwise Harry wont be able to cat the Avada Kedavra - please remember that justified anger was not really enough to perform the cruciatus course at the end of the fifth book so we can guess the killing course would be somethng really hard to perform to Harry - since he´s really ABLE TO LOVE which Voldemort (and his DeathEaters are not)
We might think Harry will have to kill Voldemort, otherwise than using the killing course, if we are to belive that the book will end properlly and Harry will be able to finally manage to do Voldemort.
November 26, 2005
I think the locket and RAB are pretty straightforward clues regarding the locket and grimwald place and it being Sirius Black’s Brother Regulus. What doesn’t make sense is that HG doesn’t have that figured out by the end of the HBP. Regulus may have turned on LV because of his Brother being framed and sent to Azkabahn. There is a mention of a Wizard named Bones being killed by LV in the first book. It doesn’t fit though. When closing a series you want it to tie together nicely. Star Wars was a great example of how to do it wrong. I don’t think HG is Harry’s sister. I don’t think Harry is a Horcrux. The great power Harry has that LV doesn’t have is love. I go back and forth on whether AD is dead. The portrait in the office is sleeping, you never see the body at the funeral. I do think Snape is still a good guy. When AD destroyed the ring he went to Snape to be cured.
Snape could have killed members of the Order as he left but didn’t. No I think the two key things Snape says to Harry are 1. there will be no unforgivable curses from you Potter. (thus keeping Harry pure), 2. learn to keep you mind closed and your mouth shut.
November 27, 2005
I think dumbledore trusts snape because they have this master plan of dd faking his death. dd wouldnt make snape dada teacher because they last 1 year and he had to save snape until the time was right. what are your thoughts? also, snape is already even with James because snape savad harry from quirrals bewitched broomstick.
November 27, 2005
what is the exact website of mugglenet?
hi im really interested about all these theories its sooo cool;
November 27, 2005
Im sure Regulus is RAB.It doesnt matter thought.He is dead people.You hear all these rumors about Harrys mom.It doesnt matter unless it deals with the horuxes. That is the only thing that matters.There are 4 left and Harry has a good idea what to look for.I think Harry will give up looking and go to that house he inherited.That is where Kreacher is.Harry will ask him about the horuxes and he will say he only knowes of a locket that regulus destroyed.That is when Harry will realize who RAB is.In the house Harry will find notes of some kind telling him where the horuxes are.Probobly notes Regulus wrote for himself.He will find them all and face voldemort.I dont know how he will get there but Harry has a knack for running into (or better yet away from)voldemort.The only thing I dont know that just might be important is Snape.Why did Dumbledore want to talk to Snape so bad after he drank the pensitive in book 6.He must have saw something that involved Snape.Somthing that could be important.Im trying hard to think of what he could have saw.I dont know!Another thing is will Harry be able to do unforgivable curses.He has to much love!Love saved his life when he was a baby now it might get him killed. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.I just had an idea. when Harry goes for the showdown with Voldemort a death eater will get Harry and bring him to Voldemort who will be outside for whatever reason.Now in book 5 Voldemort just tried to kill Harry right off the bat.This time the death eater will leave and while all the death eaters are watching Voldemort will face Harry.He will raise his wand and then Harry will scream ” I FOUND THE HORUXES”. Voldemort will be in shock and not belive Harry. Then Harry will name them and Voldemort will freak out. He will say well Potter you still have to kill me.Voldemort will raise his wand and……Well every year Harry faced voldemort there was always something to save him.In book#1 the stone saved him.In book#2 the pheonix and the sorting hat saved him.In book #3 he didnt face voldemort but still hermione had the time turner.In book#4 Harry had prior incantment and the porkety(triwizard cup).In book#5 that statue came to life and Dumbeldore was there.In book#6 he didnt face him but Dumdledore was there. Notice how all of thoes things have been destroyed.All except the sorting hat.I think the sorting hat is a horux.So with nothing to save Harry what will happen. I think I will let JK decide. Thats my prediction.
November 27, 2005
Ya snape is good there is just so much that leads to him really being good
November 27, 2005
Quirrel had the DADA job for a longer time because in a sense he was LV. The curse LV put on the job probably lifted while he had the job. So Quirrel could hold the job for longer than a yr as long as LV was in his body because it was really LV who had the job. This is a really good site http://www.harrypotterfacts.co...
it makes it seem like hermione is harry’s sister. I think it is a very good theory and it is probably pretty true. I think RAB is regulas it is so straight forward.
November 27, 2005
what if wormtail was polyjuiced up as dumbledore and thats why the hand was mangled, seeinga s how his fake hand very well wouldnt turn back into flesh and blood again? and that at snape’s house the wormtail there was really dumbledore and thats why he was stashed in a secret compartment. i mean it would be easy enough for dumbledore to curse wormtail into doing whatever he needed at school and that the trips out of hogwarts were to force feed him polyjuice and strengthen the curse? food for thought, let me get your opinions.
November 27, 2005
YES! Man, i felt so good when i figured it out on my own by putting all the clues together in the 5th and 6th books, and i thought i was the only one who knew! Apparently though, like JK Rowling, there are many people all in this earth in that same kind of clever nature. So i looked it up on google, and just as i was hoping would not happen, many sites were found on this debate. I immeadiatly thought Remus, but then i saw Lupin, the next name that came was Regulus. Im glad i was one of the millions that discovered it though. Sorry JK, the suprise was spoiled!
November 27, 2005
This is to #3:
i would like to say that in the book it mentions something about it being passed down to Sirius from Regulus and the only reason it was passed back to Bellatrix was because both Sirius AND Regulus were childless, therefore Regulus was considered and had already had the house passed down to him: Book:”Black family tradition decreed that the house was handed down the direct line, to the next male with the name of ‘Black.’ Sirius was the very last of the line AS HIS YOUNGER BROTHER, REGULUS, PREDECEASED HIM AND BOTH WERE CHILDLESS.
November 27, 2005
This is to #3 also:
btw, remember that the only reason harry got the house was because of siriuses will
November 27, 2005
to nick # 160:
im not trying to go against your points, all of you, but in the book dumbledore says that he injured his hand trying to get/find a horcrux. Also for #157 (the really long one) i think voldemort has more in store for harry and the other people why else would he have taken over the Inferi, the Giants, or the dementors?
November 28, 2005
* Cathedral: Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.
this is what JK says in an interview she does not answer it with her usual air of mystery so cant we assume that reguluus is in fact not involved
although it does seem like a ood theory
November 29, 2005
all right. Someone tell me what they think about Dumbledore and what he saw after drinking the pensitive.Also to Sara (of the US) I think your idea about voldemort having more in store for harry is true. You seem very smart. Write back please.
November 29, 2005
RAB is remulus black im sure of that because:
i read part 6 in other language (dutch).
And the last letter is then Z (RAZ). The Z is from “zwart” what means black. So it must be a black who was RAB. So it is remulus black
November 29, 2005
Actually im not that smart. Im in middle school. Im just obsessed with Harry Potter. But yeah, (to # 165) you have a point i do remember reading that somewhere. But i really think that Regulus will have a big part who else would it be but besides that, they said that lupin would have a big part too so i dunno.
November 30, 2005
I just want to know whats going to happen to fawkes if Dumbledore’s dead?
November 30, 2005
I don’t think harry will kill voldemort.
That would make him a killer and I don’t think JKR intends that for harry.
the prophesy does not say one will kill the other.
but one cannot live while the other survives.
this confuses me as aren’t both alive in book 5 & 6
November 30, 2005
puzzled:
I agree, Harry probably won’t kill voldemort
November 30, 2005
I read some of the thought’s above, and I must say there were some intresting things between them:
First of all I agree with the R,A,B being Sirius brother (Regulus) theorie and that he stole the horcrux with kreacher and hid it in Grimboud 12, who else than a death-eather could have tracked the location of the horcrux??
about the horcruxes,
I do not believe harry potter or his scar is one,
For the simple reason: Voldemort doesn’t like to be independeble of someone else,
by making harry a horcrux he is…
about the other horcroxes:
I think the cup, the snake and some other stufe
I didn’t gave it much thought.
But for all we know, Regulus may have tracked down a cople of more horcruxes.
However I,m pretty sure Regulus id dead, and not “hidden better than you can imagene” by Dumbledore or an other member of the Fenix.
Because if he was, he would have asked Dumbledore’s help for tracking down the horcruxes
or at least told him, He already stole one.
Also I’m sure Dumbledore an Sirius are dead, because Jk rowling wants you to understand harry’s hate for Voldemort, it would be a bit softy if one of them would suddenly come back.
That leaves us with the big question:
Why the HELL did Snape kill Dumbledore?
well let’s say he was working on Dumbledore’s orders
which is verry well possible because:
-Dumbledore didn’t plead for the other death-eaters,
They also could have killed the weakened wisserd with not to much trouble,
Meaning Dumbledore was pleading snape to kill him.
-On snape’s escape he didn’t hurt Harry Potter, he even gave him some advice
-Snape doesn’t like to be called a coward what is quite understandeble seeing what he had to do if he’s one Dumbledore’s sight
-There was an argument between Dumbledore and Snape in the forest, what me have been about Dumbledore wantin Snape to kill him if it would come to that. But Snape would rather have gave his own live..
and there are many other clues to find in the books:
it also explains Dumbledore’s enourmes trust in snape
but the most important reason I could make up was:
By killing Dumbledore, Snape saved the lives of himself, Draco and draco’s mother, otherwise they would all have gotten killed. With Dumbledore dead snape will get a lot of respect of the death-eaters and Voldemort will trust him a lot.. ,
So infect When Dumbledore sacrificed him self he made 2 power full weapons:
1 Harry potter, how saw many of his beloved ones die, he is now turing in some
“Killing Voldemort Machine”
2 Sneep, he probably wants revenge on Voldemort for making him kill Dumbledore, and of course he is a good spy.
- But what I don’t understand is:
If Sneep didn’t want to kill Dumbledore why did he had for the astromy tower in the first place? or was he just playin his double-role?
- And the Halfblood Prince thing, doesn’t seem to fit in, that book is more or less pointing out Sneep is evil.. Or did he turn over to the right sight when Lilly died?
But these are just my thoughts..
enough theories for now.
Feel free to react
Oh yeah I wonder if Dumbledore’s brother will play a roll in part 7
November 30, 2005
Hi, all. I have a theory about Regulus.
First of all, I believe it’s quite possible that RAB is indeed Regulus Black, even though we don’t know what his middle name is. And secondly, I believe that RAB is still alive and probably one step ahead of Dumbledore in the sense of hunting down and destroying the Horcruxes.
JKR is quite profound when giving certain characters specific names. For example, Lupin is relatively close to “lupis”, meaning “wolf”. And what can Lupin turn into? That’s right; a wolf.
Mr. Filch’s first name is Argus. And who was Argus in Greek mythology? He was the giant who was covered in eyeballs, also known as the “All-Seeing”. And what role did Filch play at Hogwarts? That’s right; he had to keep his eyes on the students and make sure they weren’t misbehaving.
Think about this. Sirius, the actual star and not the character, Sirius Black, is the brightest star in the constellation Canis Major, the Dog Star. And what can Sirius Black turn into? That’s right, a dog.
I’m sorry I’m going on too long, but I’m coming to my point. (finally) Does anyone know what Regulus is? Regulus is the brightest star in the constellation Leo. And what does Leo look like? You guessed it; a lion. So, who in the book is described as resembling a lion? I know it’s a stretch, but the new Minister of Magic that replaced Fudge, Scrimgouer, is almost always described by JKR as resembling a lion, besides the fact that he walks with a limp (maybe an injury from when Voldemort ‘killed’ him).
Could it be that Scrimgouer is really Regulus Black and he’s constantly on Harry and Dumbledore in order to find out what they know of the remaining horcruxes? Maybe Regulus is a reformed Death Eater (like Snape) and pretended to be dead.
Don’t forget, HBP had a lot to do with faking deaths. Dumbledore’s death might have been faked. And don’t forget the speech Dumbledore gave Draco right before Dumbledore died. When Draco was saying that he has to kill Dumbledore or else Voldemort would kill him, Dumbledore said to him, “There are ways we can make you seem as if you died. There are ways we can hide you so that Voldemort could never find you or come looking for you,” so some variation of that.
November 30, 2005
I think that Rufus Scrimgeour is Regulus Black because when ever he and Harry met Scrimgeour always asked about Dumbledore. The fight between RS and AD could have been about staying out of trouble because Dumbledore was helping RB stay hidden. After the funeral RS asked Harry if he knew where Dumbledore had gone. I think that RS knew that Dumbledore was trying to find a Horcrux. This is of course just a guess. Harry is not a Horcrux it’s just to unbeleiveable. Hermione could be posibley be Harrys sister.
December 1, 2005
Couldn’t Harry get a time-turner and save dumbledore or Sirius. I’m suprised JKR hasn’t brought up a reason explaining why this is not impossible.
December 1, 2005
I also think one of the horcruxes might be at Harry’s parents graveyard. He did mentioning visiting them and I don’t think JKR would have included that for nothing.
December 1, 2005
Do you people think Draco might run to the Order for safety and spoil Voldemort’s plans? It’s hard to imagine, but you never know.
Do you guys think that Harry will fo over to the arch (book 5) and try to hand Sirius a mirror? I know it’s a whacko idea, but anything is possible.
Oh and I don’t think Dumbledore would be a ghost, he wouldn’t have feared death.
December 1, 2005
regulus black is dead, so is sirius and albus, due to the millions of HP obsesives out there dont you think JK would be a little more subtle???
December 1, 2005
We already know of two of God Griffs possesions the hat and the sword why does AD say that we dont knoiw of anything?
December 1, 2005
Hey I have another idea. What if RAB should be read backwards.Maybe its BAR.Maybe BAR means somthing to voldemort.Maybe its not even somebody.Maybe its a secret that only voldemort would know about (there seems to be alot of thoes). Maybe every horux this person got to has the same note. You know professer trailway or whatever(the weird lady that predicts) seems to always know about the future. Mabey she can tell where and what the horuxes are. Maybey shes the one. In book 3 she knew harry would face sirius. More importantly she knows the profecy. Shes the one who told dumbledore. The profecy voldemort never heard completely. Thats important! The only question is why RAB. Well if its backwards (BAR) maybey BAR means the Hogs Head where she recited the profecy. Just a thought. You have to be creative with this stuff. Otherwise its not……… a good theory.
December 1, 2005
i dunno why would u no hu leave a note 4 himself but i like the idea the it might not b RAB
December 1, 2005
# I agree that Regulus Black is indeed Dead, though is does not stop the theory that he stole the horcrux and hid it at #12. And deeply affected by the death of Dumbledore I am very quick to believe in any theory that dumby is still alive wether he is or not… but one thing is certain that snape is good, and what ever he did to Dumbledore was strictly Dumbledores order.If Dumbledore is truly dead, I beleive that he will definitly help harry through the use of the portraite. All though I am very suprised that no one has even mentioned the fact Hogwarts may indeed be closing for the next schedualed year. The school closing could change a great deal in the plot and affect a lot of things.
December 1, 2005
To # 175, as explained in book 5 and 6 they were destroyed that night in the ministry
December 1, 2005
And absoluty not. There is no possible way The new minister is Regulus. it is ridiculous. Rufis treated Dumbledore as an annoyance, had him tailed and detested Harry’s decision to side with Dumbledore. Know Dumbledore is all about destorying Volemort why would Rufis (Regulus) not tell Dumbledore about it? It holds no ground at all. Sorry
December 2, 2005
ok as far as im concerned this is how it goes…dumbledore is not dead there are to many clues to show hes not also Snape is good once again to many clues to prove he is. and harry is a horcrux hence the “neither can live while the other survives and also check this out http://www.harryisahorcrux.com... i figured it out and thought i would try my luck and voila!!!! if anyone wants to argue with me Bring It ON!!!!
December 2, 2005
Also RAB is Regulas as in his note he says that i will be dead long before you read this and how would he know that if he hadnt left voldemort and expected to be killed. Also something tells me that crouches old house elf comes into it *just a hunch*
December 2, 2005
To #179
I think dumbledore meant gryffindor items that voldemort had access to and would be able to turn into horcruxes. He did say that he knew of the sword, AND that it was safe with him. I totally forgot about the hat, which book did they mention that?
December 2, 2005
I went to the website wwwdumbledoreisnotdead.com
and i read the whole thing. I was pretty much convinced when i then read that JK Rowling had warned that a major character would die. Unless you cont the fat death eater as a major character, I really believe Dumbledore is dead. I don’t think JK would have said anything about a major character dying if it wasn’t true.
December 2, 2005
Cathedral: Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.
From http://www.quick-quote-quill.o...
shut up u guys its not regulus!
December 2, 2005
i think that harry will have to face voldemort alone in 7 and that they will both die even though only one has to apparently. If she left harry alive she would be continously badgered for new books for comic relief etc also i think the gryffindor sword is a horocrux as dumbldedore goes outta his way to mention it….
December 2, 2005
to 187 its in his song in the third i think gryffindor whipped me off his head.. annd to harry is a horcrux it has been said before but Voldy didnt like to rely on other people. also the prophecy says the neither.. so if harry is a horcrux they both have to live u sflobber worm
December 2, 2005
#189 - Max - There’s a pretty solid case for it being Regulus. The new news that third initial in the note in other languages is the same initial used for the colour black in the same language only improves the argument.
The only thing that article you linked to does is prove he is dead so won’t be appearing in any books, but we already new that. There is nothing in the interview that says he won’t be talked about, just that he won’t be doing the talking.
December 2, 2005
hey i was wondering u no how no dark wizard has ever come from anywhere but slytherin what about wormtail, and at the time Sirius Black??
December 2, 2005
I came to the same conclution i feel that she would use a character she has all ready mention as rab olso did you pick up in book 1 when ron does the on his rat he said turn this stupid rat yellow, he was no rat
December 3, 2005
I wondered if RAB might actually be Dumbledore himself. I admit this IS an odd theory, but Albus could be Dumbledore’s middle name and there could be a real first name starting with R. The motivation is still not clear, though.
December 3, 2005
Distortion [and possible spoiler]: Jo said there will be a major character death in book 6
This is a distortion and exaggeration of something JK wrote on her website (”FAQs”). JK did not specify which book or books she meant when she said that more characters would die. JK has never confirmed that any characters (major or minor) will die in Book 6.
I’m sorry. I realize that Dumbledore is dead. Ididn’t know what I read earlier wasn’t true.
December 3, 2005
I was reading something that said Bless Me Ultima would give you a hint about the 6th Harry Potter. I’m not sure if this was a rumor or not, but I’ve read bless me ultima. The owl ends up be Ultima’s spirit. Maybe Phoenix was Dumbledore’s spirit, so he’s not truly dead yet. Then maybe Fawkes (Dumbledore’s spirit) would be able to help Harry. That is, IF dumbledore died. (well he didn’t really die if Fawkes is his spirit)
December 3, 2005
oh, on 194 I meant “not dead” Dumbledore is definitely alive
December 3, 2005
# 185 Harru is not a horcrux….If he was he would have to kill himself before he could kill Voldemort. End of story. All of the horcruxes must be destroyed b4 voldemort can be killed.
And as far as regulus. Just cause he is dead doesnt mean he isn’t RAB, It could have very well happened b4 regulus was killed. Open ur mind a little bit. =P
December 3, 2005
Ok, for all who dont understand. Dumbledor has INDEED made a horcrux….on fawkes….ill let you connect the dots from here on.
December 3, 2005
oh, and that is also why dumbledor’s hand has been DEAD(hermione said that). it isnt because of the ring, but because dumbledore tore part of his spirit and put it into fawkes. (JK’s influence on nanjini shows this). Just as Lord Voldemorts body had deteriorated when he made horcruxes, dumbledore’s body did aswell.
And Harry Potter could very well be a Horcrux. We hear from the earlier books that part of Voldemort was inside harry (Parseltongue). But, then why would voldemort want to kill harry? this is a question we must ponder. Is Voldemort’s lust for revenge greater than his longing for trophies? Also, JK states that she will miss Harry Potter greatly after she is done with book 7…does this mean harry dies? does he kill himself to rid the Horcrux?
December 3, 2005
we see that Dumbledore says that Voldemort has brought the prophecy on himself, Voldemort has made Harry his greatest enemy. And that is why Harry Potter is the only one that can kill Voldemort, because he is the last Horcrux.
December 3, 2005
we know that Voldemort does not love anybody. Anybody but himself. Is this why he cannot kill Harry Potter? Because in Harry Potter lies a fragmant of Lord Voldemort? He cannot kill the person he loves? Does Lord Voldemort LOVE Harry PottER??
December 3, 2005
Or is Harry Potter a descendent of Godric Gryffndor? Is that why Voldemort made him a Horcrux? because he is a symbol of one of the four Hogwarts founders. and then realising that harry pottter was the one that would kill him beecause he heard it through the prophecy, he decided to kill harry as a baby….is that why voldemort cant kill harry? because he is his equal? slytherin vs. gryfindor. we know dumbledore puts great influence on that the “only” artifact that is know of gryfindor’s is the sword. (except for harry potter)
December 3, 2005
“only a true gryfindor can pull the sword out of the hat” Chamber of secrets
December 3, 2005
or lily potter put a spell on potter that would place a horcrux on harry–a horcrux of voldemort when he tried to kill harry. so that is the ultimate protection. voldemort will not kill his own spirit.
December 3, 2005
or harry is lily;’s horcrux. after all slughorn does say repeatedly “YOUr just Like ur Mother!!!”"
December 3, 2005
harry is a horcrux and voldemort wants to kill him becuse…well we hear dumbledore saying in book 6 that making a living creatuer a horcrux is a dangerous thing. it can rebel. it can think on its own–after the prophecy is heard this is why voldemort goes after harry potter me thinks
December 3, 2005
i think dumbledore really did die. but fawkes killed herself to resurrect dumbledore. we see faweks rise in the heavens during dumbeldores funeral
December 3, 2005
or maybe malfoy has a bigger role than we think. this whole thing of dumbledore dying to cover up for malfoy…snapes unbreakable vow…maybe malfoy is the one destined to kill voldemort>
December 3, 2005
jkr uses tried and true mythic structure for her tales: the mentor has to die so the hero’s victory is all his own. No paternalistic assistance. Obi-Wan Kenobi in Star Wars, for example. So dumbledore is dead.
Good wizards don’t make horcruxes. You have to tear your soul in two…. even books on evil magics say, “on horcruxes, a magic so foul and evil, we will not address” blah blah or something like that. That would taint Dumbledore’s purity.
Snape is not bad… night scene where dumbledore is overheard scolding Snape: you have to do it! Snape’s face twisted into horror and hatred…. of himself!… as he kills dumbledore…he makes SURE that malfoy does NOT kill dumbledore… he gives harry instruction in their final confrontation: keep your mouth shut and your mind closed… and you think snape couldn’t dispatch that griffin with half a thought? He did the absolute minimum of evil required of him.
Also I agree with #170
December 3, 2005
People keep saying that snape is a bad guy, that is wrong and I would bet my house on it. It is completely out of Dumbledores character to beg for his life. He died so Harry would have no one else to hide behind and he would need to become stong to defeat voldemort. Dumbledore is dead because if he wasn’t it would ruin the story that Harry was the only one to ever survive the curse.
December 3, 2005
Jack,
Dumbledore did not, nor will any good wizard ever, make a horcrux. I don’t think you truly understand the gravity of making a horcrux. It is the single most evil thing a wizard can do. Killing for pleasure is not nearly as evil as splittling your own soul. It makes you less of a being. Takeing part of everything you are and tearing it from your self!….and his hand was caused by a cure on the ring (one of thehorcruxes) b4 he destroyed it. It was in the book. I think that A lot of ppl have great theories, but I think that some ppl need to actually read the books and think about what they are asking ppl to consider. Harry a horcrux…. why would Lily..his mother…make it so harry would have to die before voldemort can be killed? this would make it so voldemort could live forever, unless her son died. and also voldemort hates relying on other ppl, or anything for that matter. Why would he make something his vitality depends on, another person, and the other person to be the only person that could kill him? As basic theories they seem very interesting, but to propose them as serious thought is just ridiculous.
December 3, 2005
for the tenth time someone listen in one of the sorting hats song he says that he is godric gryfindors and why would JK not mention it?? its a horcrux
also i think the song is book three
PS wot chapter is the forest scene in ive read the book four times and i dont remember it
December 3, 2005
if you go to harryisahorcrux.com i t sucks hu made it?
December 3, 2005
I second that that web site is stupid
December 3, 2005
there are all kinds of signs and foreshadowing. “One cannot live while the other survives”, duh visaversa “while the one survives the other cannot live”. Harry and vold go together when vold dies either harry dies too or harry loses all his extradinary powers and such , maybe even his wizarding power. just a theory?
December 4, 2005
The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches…born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies…and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not…and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives…the one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies…
December 4, 2005
That is the exact prophecy, says Harry has the power to vanquish Voldemort, not that he has to die if he kills him. It says neither can live while the other survives….meaning in order for one to live the other must die. So one has to die not both… though it did sound interesting..
the power he knows not is to love….
December 4, 2005
There is no doubt that R.A.B. is indeed regulus black. He fits the role perfectly, beyond the initials……
he was a death eater, thus refers to him as the dark lord, he tried to turn away from Voldemort and was ‘killed,’ regulus felt he threw his whole life away and that he was on the wrong side, he did the most dramatic thing he could even if it meant death, because after you figure out your life has been horrible and wrong death seems a good option, he decided to end his life on a good note
December 4, 2005
Firstly Harry has got to go back to 12 Grimauld Place. Dumbledore was the secret keeper, now departed so will anyone other than the owner be able to enter until he has given the address to the rest of the order. Second, I believe RAB is definately Regulus Black. Remember Sirius saying Voldermortt himself had killed him, must have done something bad. Third this would fit why Dumbledore trusted Snape so, It was Snape who told him about the Horcruxes or what Regulas may have been up to. Fourth I believe that Regulas destroyed all the Horcruxes except for the Snake, think about all of the objects cleared from the glass cabinet, Snuff Box(bit Serius and the twins took it) - music box (they all wanted to fall asleep) and the heavy locket nobody seemed interested in but they couldn’t open. so where would regulas leave the stuff once he had got rid of the Horcrux? what safer place than the headquarters of the Order. I am still a bit miffed about the tweezers, unless they open the locket.
December 4, 2005
I don’t believe that Harry is a Horcrux however if you look at Harry’s scar could it be an upside down 7 with a 7 meaning seventh of seven and seven being the most powerful number in magic, is this the power the Dark Lord knows not??????
December 4, 2005
just 1 more thought on Snape/Regulas, Regulas knew about the potion in the cave, who better to get an antidote than Snape. Snape obviously suspected something and told Dumbledore, that is why Dumbledore trusted him so much.
December 4, 2005
sirius says voldy didnt kill him himself and for the third time the sorting hat belongeed to GG so its probs a horcrux think bout voldy having his soul rite in hogwart???
December 4, 2005
him = Regulus
December 4, 2005
I have the solutions. First off about RAB. Look in a dictionary with defenitions that go into detail. You will find regulus says a golden item! The locket! It also says a very small bird and also a constilation in the stars. People doesnt that sound fimiliar. Sirius is a constilation and it also means a black dog. Since sirius is a amnigus that turns into a black dog maybe regulus is a amnigus that turns into a little bird just like the definition of his name. that is the anwser I know it. JK always uses the defonition of peoples names. One last thing. Voldemort did not make harry a horux. Why would he make Harry one? Harry will die eventually not like a locket or a diary. Also in book6 Voldemort first learns of horuxes at a young age. He probably made them right after after he finished Hogwarts. Harry wasnt even near being born then. Tell me what you think! And hey nobody anwsered me about dumbledore. Thats #166. Also read me other thoughts. #180 and #157. Thanks a bunch and remember were all right in our own way.
December 4, 2005
Garret,
as far as it being BAR, it is interesting, however, the initials are written R.A.B. makeing it seem as though they are intials in that order like a name, ya know what I mean? If it was just written RAB w/o the periods then it very well could be BAR. and also I am not sure what u mean in #166 when Dumbledore was drinking the pensive….
December 4, 2005
Also the “heavy locket no one could open”….It seems almost certain that that could be the Slytherin locket, but one thing makes me think it isn’t…… Don’t you think Harry would have recognized it when he saw it in the pensive? JK put suchan emphasis on the locket being a horcrux, don’t you think Harry would have remebered it from # 12. Just a thought that has been troubleing me. Tell me what you think.
December 4, 2005
P.S. also I don’t think it was ever metioned to have the slytherin mark on it. that is one of the first things they would have noticed on it yet it was never mentioned that it had that mark…….
December 5, 2005
Josh at the end of book #6 Dumbledore has to drink a pensitive just to reach the locket. When he drinks it he freaks out remember. Thats what I mean. Write back and about thoes initials being backwards I changed my mind just read #226.
December 5, 2005
Josh: I think the point about the not so detailed mention of the locket was prciseley the point, It seems such a throw away line in the book that I believe it has significants, that plus the RAB (prob Regulas) ties the two things together. That plus Harry always seems to miss the things that are right under his nose.
December 5, 2005
About R.A.B
1- He / She was a Death Eater, since he refers to voldemort as “dark lord” , not he-who-must-not-be-named as non-death eaters do.
2- He was never close neither to albus nor to the order of phoenix, otherwise dumbledore wouldnt have gone to the cave nor taken harry.
3- He knows about the locket indeed, but there is no proof about knowing of all the other horcruxes, in fact, on his note he says he will try to destroy the locket —> so voldemort could be mortal again when his time came, meaning he thought this was the only horcruxe he made.
3- 1 -> How does he know about the locket ?? and more important… How did he manage to break through all voldemort´s defenses, when even albus would not have been able to do it alone ??
As for the theory about the locket found in grimauld place #12 being Salazar´s one, i consider it possible since it would make it easier for harry to find it, and he will sure have a lot of work in the next book, still when they see that locket, they should see Slytherins mark on it, Dumbledore can add two and two, he should have guessed inmidiatly if it were
About Harry being a horcruxe, Voldemort was going to make a horcrux with harry´s death, meaning he was planning to kill him. Not making a horcruxe with him. Although it would have been a great idea, he never thought about it.
About Snape … i am completely lost, but i WANT to believe he is evil, cause i need revenge for albus dead… and if he is, i guess wormtail will have something to do in harrys vendetta against severus, lets remember wormtail has a doubt with harry (as dumbledore said in book 3 and repeated in 5, and we all know how when jk repeats something it is going to be important) and wormtail is living on snape´s house. Still Snape did lots of good things for the order he need not do, but maybe only to getting dumbledore trust… well, as i stated before, i am lost about snape hehe
and about the hat being a godric possesion… where did you read that? I might have missed it, but as far as i am concerned, albus says only GG possesion is the sword, and the hat itself on book 5 said he was made after the four fundators of hogwarts argued about who to teach, in order to distribute them into houses, meaning he was made by the four.
I may be completely wrong in everything… but thats what i think ^^
December 5, 2005
to koren in the song in the fourth book the SH says that GG whipped me off his head, ts GGs why would JK not mention, simple its one of the horcruxes, List of horcruxs hopefuly in order of creation
1. Diary (destroyed)
2. Locket
3. ring (destroyed)
4.Cup of HH
5. Sorting hat GGs
6. Nagini
7. Voldermort
also i think one of the horcruxs is in: hogwarts, 13# and Albania where u no hu was hiding
December 5, 2005
Garret,
I remember but I just got confused by your use on pensive, the potion wasn’t pensive. But speaking of it, I have wondered why could harry just pur it on to the ground? why did it have to be drank? Maybe I over looked something, idk.
Paul
I definitly agree, harry is dense to many things under his nose sometimes. I guess it is more or less I am not sure that islocket is the locket from slytherin, there is evidence for both sides and I havent picked a side yet is all ^^
Also to Binky, You have some great theories. And I agree with most of them, but I am not sure the sorting hat is a horcrux. I am sure dumbledore would sense the evil magic for it if it were. also why would Voldemort leave a horcrux at the school? It would be very arrogant and careless, and something such as a part of his sole he would want to be more protected of it. idk. It would be very interesting to see, if it is, it is ingenuis and I would love to hear it explained how it was never discovered, but part of me just thinks that it isn’t. Also for Voldemort to make a living creature such as nagini a horcrux seems out of character for him. let me know what you think, I tend to overlook somethings soo idk…
December 5, 2005
I miss spelled soul lol
December 5, 2005
And for a reference, here it is, the Note from RAB:
To the Dark Lord
I know I will be dead long before you read this
but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret.
I have stolen the real horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can.
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match,
you will be mortal once more.
R.A.B.
December 5, 2005
i think that r.a.b is not regulus…too obvious and why would he want to desttroy voldermort?! i also think snake is good voldermort cant be a horcruxe can he?
December 6, 2005
The locket in grimauld place is the horcrux locket, as i was going through both books last night and noticed that all the times the locket is mentioned it noted that it was a heavy locket
December 6, 2005
Josh,
it would be a total anti climax at the end if harry found all his horcruxs and then killed voldy! he will turn out to be one u wait and see…exactly a week after the next book comes out i will meet you back at this post and you can tell me how right i was jks, what do u think is going to happen?
December 6, 2005
Everyone seems to be coming up with some fun, interesting theories I’m really interested though if anyone has theories on Fawkes as I think it’s the best character in the books.
December 6, 2005
i notice i forgot to point why i think regulus is not r.a.b
1- the most important why is that its far too obvius and jk would know everyone is going to think about regulus.
2- in the note there is one sentence which i come to find of most importance “i know i will be dead long before you read this”. Why would he be so sure about this ? This leads me to think that at the moment r.a.b. wrote this note after voldemort tried to kill Harry. We know Regulus was dead while Voldemort had his body, since Sirius said he was killed on voldemort´s orders.
I have my own theories about who r.a.b. could be, but im still working things out, though im 99% sure its nor regulus ^^
December 6, 2005
Koren
I think that RAB is Regulus. It makes to much sense for it not to be him. PLus it saying I will be dea long b4 you read this doesn’t mean anything. The horcrux could have been found at any time. When Regulus left he could have went striaght to look for the Horcrux. or maybe He was only a death eater so he could get close to Voldemort to find out his weaknesses…….sound like someone else? Snape. And Snape calls himn the dark lord as well. so THere is just so much that points to him, and if it’s not who would it be? I doubt JKR is going to introduce a new character.
Allie,
I agree that would be quite anti-climactic indeed. However, I believe it is ridiculous to think Harry is a horcrux. That would mean Harry would have top Die b4 Voldemort could be killed……….. I seriously hope thats not what JK does…….. Do you thikn that harry would die? I dnt want him to….=(
December 6, 2005
josh, dumbledor says the snkae is a horcrux, hav u reread the hats song in four, its says its ggs and why would jk make AD say that the only possesion is the sword, because she wants us to overlook this and then looki back and realise that its possible and we should have figured out. a lot of people on this site seem not to have read the books, they dont no all deatheaters say dark lord, they dont no Ad says nagini is a horcrux, people read it!
December 6, 2005
Josh, yeah i have no idea im just trying to make sense of it all. do u think snape is good?
December 7, 2005
Did you know Dumbledores initials are ADD. Just thought I would point that out. Also Josh it says that Dumbledore gets a crystal goblet he conjers right before he drinks the potion. I dont know why its weird. Its on page #568 of book6. Write back. I need some new thoughts.
December 7, 2005
Binky, I believe Dumbledore says he thinks the snake is a horcrux, then says maybe not cause living things are undependable for horcruxes. It could be, im not sure.
December 7, 2005
Garret,
Hmm I didn’t notice that…but def wierd.
Allie,
I didn’t after reading the book, but I have definitly come to the conclusion that snapeis good. whether he killed dumbledore, or just made it seem like it, hte way Dumbledore pleaded it was more of a plead for Snape to follow orders, also when JK says snape was filled with hatered and anguish…..she used the same words to describe Harry as he fed the potion to dumbledore…
So yeah I think Snape is good
December 7, 2005
nope snape is bad and harry is going to have to kill u no hu on his own with friends.
December 7, 2005
Just a thought on who RAB could be. In order of the phoenix sirius is showing harry a tapestry of his family tree and one of the names mentioned was Rodolphus Lestrange’s brother RABastan. I know in the clue the letters were set out as initials but if that were to confuse people that didn’t know him or something. In the book it also says he went to azkaban with his brother who was a death eater suggesting that he was also 1
December 7, 2005
R.B. could also be amelia bones, the witch from the ministry that died in HP V.
she fought against Lord Voldemort and it was said that she was a very talented witch that gave him a good fight…
December 7, 2005
i definitly think R.A.B is regulas espialy in the 5th one where no one could open the locket. I think he destroyed the hrcrux and kept the locket.
December 7, 2005
Josh,
Yeah i was furious when i finished the book but am now convinced snape is good. i mean snape killing dumbledore after dumbldore trusted him all these years has just made dumbledore a foolish old man and jk wouldnt do that to one of her main characters. when does the next book come out? does anyone know?
December 7, 2005
I had the same theory so when the book came out in dutch I checked the initials. Here it was RAZ and the Z stands for Zwarts the dutch name of Black. This confirmed our common theory
December 7, 2005
hi I´m brazilian so, please don´t mind the mistakes!
I think he have to have in mind that RAB can be a character that have never been mentioned!
and I think that the B of RAB does not mean Black, or maybe the initials are from a name that only Voldemort knew, a nickname, maybe RAB is a she, a secret love from Voldemort, a (I don´t know in English, in portuquese is sangue-ruim) mody-blood, dirty-blood, the important is that this woman was not a pure blood, and voldemort would kill her, so she would die but would make he lose something…
only supositions, I apologize for the mistakes, and congratulations for the blog!
December 8, 2005
Binky he’s good, we were all furious with him, just as Harry is, but when you thikn about it, snape has always been the good guy no matter what. And harry has always hated him…which made it work, it made him seem evil. one thing I dnt understand is that in book one quirrle was voldemort, but snape was fighting quirrle form getting the stone, once snape foud out it was voldemort, why didn’t he help him……
He’s a good guy. he has had so many oppurtunites to expose the order, and kill the membesit’s not funny but he hasn’t.
December 8, 2005
what do u think of this…u know in the profercy when it sayd that “he will have power the dark lord knows not” or sumthing like that what if its not harry at all and its not love…what if its neville and has been all along i mean she has been keeping neville pretty close. and his power has what it takes to get rid of voldy with harrys help.
and i just thought of something intresting Voldy is sure that snape is on their side and i know he has to act like it when hes at the school but why when quirrel was trying to get the stone did he attack him and say “think about where your loyalties lie” when voldy is in the back of quirrells head so he would of heard it but still trusts snape *confused much!!*
December 8, 2005
I don’t think Snape knew Voldemort was on the back of Quirrell’s head. If Dumbledore knew, he wouldn’t have let Quirrell teach. Snape also probably thought Voldemort was dead, or that Voldemort was on the other side of the world barely able to live.
Also did it mention in the book how James Potter saved Snape? I’m not sure if they mentioned it or not.
December 8, 2005
Garrett:
Dumbledores name is Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore according to book 5 so his initials can’t be A.D.D they have to be A.P.W.B.D
December 8, 2005
no no what i mean is that snape was obviously trying to stop quriell from getting the stone and and voldy would have heard. and snapes story of not wanting quirell for himself is crap . it just dsnt make sense i mean if snape obviously knew that quirell was helping voldy other wise the “think about where you loyalites lie” quote dsnt make sense so why was he stopping him…..but if he is good then why did’nt he tell dumbledore???
December 8, 2005
I don’t think Nagini is a horcrux either. It was the only one Dumbledore wasn’t certain about. I have a feeling it is going to be something close to Harry. If Harry was a horcrux, wouldn’t he be sorta possesed by Voldemort? Also does it count as eliminating a horcrux whenever Harry “kills” Voldemort? I don’t see how JKR is going to fit finding 4 different horcruxes in one book. It took Harry and dumbledore a whole book. And even if Harry finds them all, he would then have to kill Voldemort. Unless Harry had a LOt a bunch of help from regulus would he be able to maybe get all the horcruxes in one book. I think Wormtail is going to help him destroy some of the horcruxes. Harry is going to need help from the dark side if he is going to finish it all in one book. I think Malfoy is going to end up helping him somehow.
#233- I agree that there will be one in hogwarts, but Albania doesn’t seem to be such a significant place to voldemort. I have read someother posts and I agree harrys parents graveyard will be a final standoff between him and lord voldemort or a horcrux there.
December 8, 2005
berti - yeah you have a few really good points
December 8, 2005
like i definetly think that Malfoy with do something good in the end…but what do u think about #259?
December 8, 2005
Has anybody any theories on where the horcruxes may be found?
To start a list:
His mothers grave
The Orphanage where he grew up
Bergins and borkes(or whatever sorry can’t remeber exactly)
Did he give one to Bellatrux? (he Gave Malfoy Senior the book)
Hogwarts ( I think unlikely, although possibly in the room of requirement? nothing says in the books that he started making Horcruxes after he left Hogwarts so he may have made 1 before he left, he had the ring before he left so he had just killed 3 people)
December 8, 2005
Well to throw off the theory that regulus IS dead because #12 would have gone to him, Sirius left it to Harry in his will. This is why it didn’t go to Bellatrix so it wouldn’t go to Regulus either. Although, that doesn’t mean he’s alive.
December 8, 2005
Ok and Snape IS good, he killed dumbledore because of the unbreakable vow. We all hate it. But someone said something about Fawkes. I think Fawkes is gone, but possibly Dumbledore became a Pheonix. As in the book, as he is burnt, Harry thought he saw a Pheonix fly off. So maybe Dumbledore became a Pheonix.
December 8, 2005
#258 you are a hero! I think you just rellay helped everone who has ever read Harry Potter. In book 5 on page 780 Harry looks at the label below the profecy. It reads S.P.T. to A.P.W.B.D
Dark Lord
and(?)Harry Potter
Someone made that profecy to dumbledore (remember what you said in #258). I think a death eater because only they call him dark lord. So maybey RAB isnt the only death eater were looking for. Who could S.P.T possibly be.
December 8, 2005
S.P.T = Sybil Trelawny.
It’s mentioned in book 5 what the initials stand for. Trelawny went into a trance whilst being interview for the job at Hogwarts with Dumbledore.
December 8, 2005
So Ben if it was Sybil then why does the profecy have there names on it. I know they created it by why. Did they realize they would destroy someone (Harrys) life.
December 8, 2005
#268 because every prophercy thats ever made is recorded in the dept of mystery of whatever in the ministry. of course they didnt know it would destoy someones life …but just like in the third harry potter sybil didnt even know she was saying it and still dsnt know it was her that made the profecy. nothing would ever had been done about it if one of the death eaters hadnt been listening at the door
December 9, 2005
I think it couldnt be Regulus because only a really powerful wizard could get past those trials in the cave. I really dont think he had that kind of skill, i mean dumbledore barly made it out and that was with harry’s help.
December 9, 2005
Allie I agree, the whole snape and Quirrel thing. It doesn’t make sense……Like that is the most dead give away that he is good……..I think Voldemort knows and that voldemort is going kill snape when he runs back you him(pretending to be a death eater.) let me know what yall think. Also I think Snape has always harped on potter, top make him think of him as an enemy, plus to make him try all the more. Snape knows how talented harry is, but pushes him to his limits, because he knows harry needs it. He has been preparing harry all these years to face Voldemort……again let ne know
December 9, 2005
Allie- I am pretty sure Snape is good. But if Snape knew Quirrell was after the stone, he should have told Dumbledore. This is really weird. I know this idea doesn’t make sense but it’s an idea- what if Snape wanted the glory for himself? Malfoy said snape wanted the glory of killing Dumbledore. It doesn’t really make sense, and I think that Snape is actually good. I know this isn’t really important, but Moody should be able to see boggarts with his magical eye. He was a whole floor below the boggart in book 5, so he should have been able to see it without it turning into anything. And what if you were scared of boggarts? Then the boggart would turn into itself. Just a strange thought.
December 9, 2005
totally true its so weird but at the same why didnt snape tell dumbledore that voldy was in the castle and was trying to get the stone. and why didnt he tell dumbledore about malfoy this year? i think in the end snape might sarafice himself so harry can beat voldy. maybe snape knows of the horcruxs aswell? wat ya think?
December 9, 2005
I don’t think Snape told Dumbledore about Malfoy because of the Unbreakable vow. Also Dumbledore seemed to know who it was as he mentioned in the end. I think Snape will try to help Harry somehow. I don’t think Snape knows about the other Horcruxes, it just doesn’t seem like he would. It would probably be someone much more closer to Voldemort if they had a horcurux but didn’t know it was one. I think someone who would know about the horcruxes sould have gone to school with Voldemort, or… maybe Wormtail knows. For some strange reason, I don’t think Snape know. If he knew, I would expect him to be a lot louder about it, and maybe Harry would have overheard him.
December 9, 2005
I think snape would have tried to go and find them if he knew, he is just that sort of person.
December 9, 2005
or maybe he did tell dumby about malfuy and thats why they had organised the snape killing dumbledore thing. cos he had to!!! and thats why snape was trying to get infomation out of malfoy so him and dumbledore could be more prepared. i think snape knows about the horcruxs because voldy sent him back there to get him the grifindor and ravenclaw ones. i think snape has one
December 9, 2005
But snape would have told Dumbledore hea had a horcrux, unless he didn’t know it was one. Snape was probably going to try and get info out of malfoy beacause of that.
December 9, 2005
Also, Snape wasn’t loyal to Voldemort after they caught snape. Voldemort had probably heard of this and decided not to trust snape with horcrux.
December 9, 2005
yeah probly. what do u think about dumbledore dying?
December 9, 2005
I used to believe it, but I think we have to accept the fact that he died. I think Harry will be able to communicat to him with Fawkes or something strange like that. I’m not really sure what I believe.
December 9, 2005
Allie- What do you think about dumbledore? Do you think the ghost will be of some importance in the next book. It always says there was blood on the bloody baron, yet no one knew why. If the bloody baron was alive when voldemort was at the school, he could have told dumbledore or harry more about his past. Interesting, what do you think about it.
December 9, 2005
yeah you really can’t pick whats going to happen there. im confused as to why when the death eaters and snpe were running away someone attacked harry and snape said no he belongs to the dark lord but why on earth didnt they take harry with them considering how hard it is to normally get there hands on him? he was defenceless and they just left him there??? wouldnt voldemort want to kill him to?
December 9, 2005
Oh sorry i forgot to say, bloody baron could have been murdered when riddle went to hogwarts, even though i think the bloody baron is really old like nick (around 400 years old or something like that) . They just never seemed to fill us in about the bloody baron, it is like the mystery of the bloody baron is waiting to be filled in. I have a very strong feeling one of the ghosts is going to have a very important role in the next book. They could be some use to harry too, because ghosts can’t die! HAHAHa
December 9, 2005
thats true! but why wouldnt he have said anything before?
December 9, 2005
Allie- I think Voldemort would have been enraged with his deatheaters if they hadn’t left harry for them. They could have paralysed him, but it the deatheaters were in a rush. Snape probably wanted to carry out the plans right so the dark lord would trust him more than ever. Then he could start working against voldemort secretly. If they caught Snape, which stopping to get harry was risking, dumbledore and snape’s plans would be ruined.
December 9, 2005
haha maybe aye its true u never hear bout him except that hes the only one peeves is scared of. im so excited about the next book i kinda wish i hadnt read the HBP in and day and a half though
December 9, 2005
so it proves snape is good!!!! i think something is going to happen with percy
December 9, 2005
The bloody baron seems pretty quiet. He scares Peeves. Maybe he didn’t see the urge to tell anyone. He could have been a dark wizard, because peeves is extremely scared of him. Maybe he wasn’t sure what to do, so he just stayed quiet. Bloody baron is a mysterious ghost, he would probably have some pretty strange reasons.
December 9, 2005
Allie, I think you are right. Percy is probably going to get kidnapped by voldy or something. Maybe one of the other weasleys will sacrifice their lives for Percy.
December 9, 2005
maybe i hope not cos i like all of them excpet percy. i think someone thats died will come back to life
December 9, 2005
Oh and what do you think about post #1 and mrs. figg? She is a squib, so maybe she is related to filch.
December 9, 2005
maybe i think that she wont have anymore to do with it. what do u think will happen to the malfoys now?
December 9, 2005
To 185:
How can harry be a Horcrux…It’s just silly to think he is. Voldemort puts a piece of his soul inside a horcrux. For 1: How can he put a piece of his soul inside harry, if harry’s own soul is inside his body.
2: Remember Voldemort trying to posses Harry @ the end of the order of the phoenix? He suffered from inhuman pains, because his soul wasn’t complete. Voldemort underestimates the power of a complete soul. How would he then be able to put a piece of his soul inside Harry.
3: He tries to kill harry in book 4, when he’s back. He tries to kill Harry in book 5 (in wich he almost succeeds), now i ask you, why in the world would voldemort try to kill and destroy harry, and with the boy a piece of his own soul. It’s just hilarious to think Harry is a Horcrux…
Now i’ve posted this before (end october i think) But my post was to stay in a queue line or something?!? dunno exactly… Anyways didnt see my message back, so here we go again!
I read the english version of part six first. After that the dutch version was published, and since my little sister can’t read english, she bought the dutch version. In the English version the note on the fake horcrux says: R.A.B. In the Dutch version it says: R.A.Z. The B in R.A.B. would mean Black! The Z from R.A.Z in the Dutch version would mean Zwarts! Zwarts in Dutch = Black in English. See my point? It’s almost certain R.A.B. is a member from the Black family. I can’t be sure if it’s regulus or another dude do… Another thing is: Translations arent exact. Especially translations from names aren’t exact. Chances are real big R.A.B. stands for Black!
December 9, 2005
Bertiebotts:
I was wondering the same things about that part of book 5 and being scared of boggarts and also in book 3 lupin tells harry that since the boggart turned into a dementor it showed the thing harry feared most was fear but i also thought that fearing boggarts would be more like fearing fear since a boggarts turns into the thing you fear most so if harry did fear fear then shouldn’t a boggart turn into a boggart for harry
December 9, 2005
294-yeah, but the boggarts aren’t as dangerous as the dementors. The dementors can bring back bad memories and I don’t think boggarts can. Also a dementor’s kiss is worse than dying they said.
December 9, 2005
A complete new turn:
Do you consicer possible, that Harry dies at the end? Together with Voldemort? Or do you think Voldemort will kill him and survive? Last I don´t actually consider possible, it was just an idea
December 9, 2005
wow great theories. I havent read so many intersting things in a while. The thing about the ghost was especially interesting. But I think that voldemort might know snape is good, and I think voldemort is going to kill him…….no one commented on my snape theories though =(… 271…. Also I believe snape know about the horcruxes.
December 9, 2005
I believe RAB is Regulus A Black, but that was too easy to figure out. I think that JK Rolwing would have left the mystery of RAB more secret - possibly a character we’ve met, who’s been only mentioned once or mentioned by his (or her) nickname. If it was Regulus, Krecher or Pineas Nigilis (or however you spell it) would know more.
December 10, 2005
I think Draco Malfoy is going to run to the order for safety after something bad happens. Then Draco will help harry find the horcruxes, or will be able to give info on Voldemort and his plans. Draco’s mom seems to be extremely scared of Voldemort, and Voldemort doesn’t seem to be to happy with Lucious. I think Voldemort will do something to Lucious and then Draco and his mom will flee to the order for safety.
December 10, 2005
263- I agree with all the places tou put down, except the orphanage. It just seems to busy to hide anything there because it would get disturbed and then the ministry of magic would figure out that something magical is happening there. Unless it was an award or o o o in a secret hiding place in the orphange, sorta like the chamber of secrets. Nevermind maybe there is one there. I think there might be one buried with his dad or his mom too.
Oh and I think Voldemort was making horcruxes at school because he killed his dad and made a horcrux with the ring. It said Riddle was wearing the ring in class, or he never took it off, or something like that.
Does anyone know why Voldemort got the Services to Hogwarts or whatever it is in the chamber of secrets?
December 10, 2005
My head hurts
December 10, 2005
he got the award because he supposedly caught the heir of slytherin by dobbin hagrid in
December 10, 2005
RAB might not have been a Death Eater, because loads of people call Voldemort ‘Dark Lord’. RAB must have been scared of the name ‘Voldemort’ and he wasn’t exactly going to write ‘He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named’. He must have written ‘Dark Lord’ because he was actually a Dark Lord.
When he says that he faces death to destroy the Horcrux, he probably meant that the only way to destroy it is if someone is sacrificed.
December 10, 2005
I don´t think he says exactly he faces death to destroy the horcrux. I´m just wondering why he´s so sure he´ll be already dead, when Voldemort finds out the real Horcrux is gone. This actually brings me to the thought that R.A.B. is really personaly bound to the horcrux. Otherwise he cannot be sure he´ll be already dead, when V. finds out.
On the other hand R.A.B. must be a really powerfull wizard, remeber Dumbledore really needed Harry´s help although he is something like the most powerfull non Death Eater wizard. This leads to the conclusion R.A.B. must have been a Death Eater or something like that
December 10, 2005
To Harry being a Horcrux of Voldemort:
Why the hell should he make Harry a Horcrux, if he intends to kill him later. I mean why make a Horcrux, which you destroy just after that. It doesn´t make sense.
December 11, 2005
ok I am sorry to say that I am pretty sure that Dombledore is in fact dead. But what I am wondering is when he died what happened to the memories in his pensive are they still avaible to look at or are they gone with him. If the pensive is still around are they able to find out what even made Dombledore trust snape in the first place. Dombledore was not stupid we all know that I mean if voldermort was afraid of him then he must have known what he was doing. If he had an iron clad reason to trust snape it must be a heck of a story to hear. As to RAB I think the reguls black is a good guess but I think that JKR knows that we would figure that out and that would make the seventh book way to predictable for her taste. I think that how ever much we want to be able to figure it out i think it will be a completly new character.
December 11, 2005
Snape theories….some one give me input! pls
December 11, 2005
# 271
December 11, 2005
Josh, I also think Snape is good and I totaly agree 247. Cause Dumbledore would never plead for his life, remember what he says in book1, death is only the next adventure.Plus he preferes to die ratheer than makiong horcruxes and so on. So that leads to the conclusion he pleads for Snape going on with the plan(killing D. or pretending to, I am not sure). So Snape must be good!
Plus I really trust Dumbledores judgement, I think he really has a good reason to think Snapes on his side and I´m sure we don´t yet know what the reason is. I think jkr will reveal this in the next book.
271:
I think Snape doesn´t really like Harry (remember occlumency lessons in book 5), but he owes Harry his life somehow(since James saved him, but is already dead, so it passed to Harry). About the Quirrel thing I´m clueless.
December 11, 2005
Well I’ve just finished the chapter where Dumbledore dies (my second time through) and I’ve been reading a few theories online when this thought popped into my head. Earlier in the book Hagrid mentions overhearing Dumbledore and Snape arguing about something aloud, could this be Dumbledore ordering Snape to kill him to carry out a plan as a double agent. however I have a millions of ideas and theories but I’m quite sure that Dumbledore’s character has been eliminated that being as the killing curse was directly carried out upon him, though I do not want to believe it so I still have many minor theories such as that the scene could have been staged for example how had Snape so easily reached the exact location of Dumbledore or considering Dumbledore knew that Malfoy was planning to kill him but did not show signs of attempting to find out his plan except when Snape had attempted to find out Malfoys plan however not quite insistently.
December 11, 2005
309- Dumbledore trusts Snape because he said he was really sorry after fiving away Lily and James’s hiding spot. I think they sid this in book 6. Snape already saved Harry. In the 2 book when he was on the broom. Harry asked somebody (I yhink it was Dumbledore) and learned Snape was saving him because he owed James.
December 11, 2005
311- Yeah, I hadn´t thought of Snape saving him in book2. you´re right.
About trusting Snape Harry says this in book6 but he does not actually hear this from Dumbledore, he´s rather supposing so. That´s why I think there may be some other riddle behind this.
And after I recently finished book 6(for the fourth time) I also am pretty sure Dumbledore is really dead.
December 11, 2005
Also Snape saved harry in Book one…when quirrle was trying to make harry fall of his broom. Snape was doing acounter spell to keep harry from falling.
December 12, 2005
I was rereading every part about regulus Black and it all fits. because after the prophecy was made thats when he was kill a year after and many of the deaths of the death eaters who went aganisted you-know-who it was ayear after they died for example karkaroff it took a year. Also in the 5th book when they are talking about Regulus and the black family it mentions names a little but with regulus they gave a little more about him. this could mean they wanted us to know about him alittle more then the others so maybe when harry thought in his head some 15 years before and he was killed maybe not by volemort. This could also explain why the ministry thought that surius was a killer becuase they new his brother was (maybe) Also the locket that they found when they were cleaning up the living room cabinet that they were going to throw away but kreacher took it why would J.K. rwling bother to tell us what happen with it if it wasn’t really that important. and now that surius left harry #12 and kreacher he could aquire the locket they also i think mention a decorated cup the when harry when to pick it up it was stuck to the ground and so he could pick it up like ti was stuck with a permant charm. you-know-who also gave Lucious Malfoy the diary and he was just a death eater and he hind it with some of his more in important dark magic things in the floor board under his drawing room maybe another horcrux is in there? and someone said Hagrid told that snape and dumbldore had a fight but they never said in the end why it happened because the conclusion harry and ron and hermoine came up with is that dumbledore was pushing him to hard with being a double agent but if this was true that would mean dumbledore saying he didnt have to do it anymore so if he was on the dark side then he have to go around dumbledore and still do the whole death eater thing so it would make sense but maybe dumbledore new what was going on and told snape to not kill because he is like main charactor!(if that makes sense lol) well tell me what you think?
December 12, 2005
hey guys its said that regulus is a very weak wizard and that only a good one good get the horcrux, i think it is him but he prob had help also, now for the fourth time the sorting hat is a horcrux, its GGs, it thinks but doesnt hav a brain (mr weasly, thank you) and its in hogwarts where noone wold look, as for the orphanage its to random huever said that, josh and bertie i like u guys ur smart
December 12, 2005
it says that dumbledore took out the horcrux in the ring with out acually destroying the ring because it was still on the table when harry left for his lessons so it is possible for harry to be the horcrux and not die to have it taken out of him!
December 12, 2005
Maybe dumblebore became a horcrux when he wore the ring and the horcrux was not destroyed but simply transfered. Snape helped Dumbledore when he wore the ring and they devised a plan so snape would become more trustworthy to voldemort as dumbledore would have to die so harry could kill voldemort. Snape would kill dumbledore to gain this trust.
December 12, 2005
These are awsome theories! I agree with Regulus being R.A.B its to much of a coincidence with the Dutch translation.
#250 Kamahl. If it is Amelia Bones that may explain why in HBP Hermione got angry with harry a few times for saying that the prince had to be a boy! And it does say Regulus wasnt a very powerful wizard and that Amelia was! And JK already has so many significant male characters that it would make sense to have an important female. And i think it would have to be a character at least mentioned once before. So someone check the translation of Bones!
And Snape has to be good, he helped Dumbledore when he came back after being cursed by the ring. And dumbledore wants to go straight to Snape because he knows what dumbledore has been doing with the horcruxes.
To Phoenix I don;t think Fawkes is gone, i think hes going to come straight back to harry. He will be an important character in book 7 cause Harry will need all the help he can get. Especially when dumbledore isn;t around.
December 12, 2005
hey i realised that nagini cant b a horcrux cos voldy didnt kill frank Pete petegrew did, also if voldy has the locket (SS) the cup (HH) the hat (GG) then hes guna have sumin of RRs dont u think
December 12, 2005
Harry being the Horcrux could transcend the ultimate evil. We know Voldemort likes his dramatic gestures - i.e. no-one but Harry would do for his ressurection, because Harry’s blood would take his power above and beyond. A human Horcrux - WOW! The killing and the receptacle, all in one. Never been done before, therefore opening up a whole new series of possibilities to him. Harry being the prophesised only wizard with the power to defeat the Dark Lord must have aded a real eclat. Only the love charm caused it to backfire, and Voldemort was shattered. So now the Horcrux remains trapped in Harry - could it be in his SCAR? It causes him to feel echoes of what Voldemort is thinking and feeling - the echoes of a lost soul perhaps? Voldemorte might not even realise the fact - perhaps he meant to kill Harry then use the body to store his Horcrux in - like the shrunken heads in Borgin and Burkes. It would certainly add spice to the final showdown. It wouldn’tnecessarily be incompatible with the neither can live while the other survives prophesy.
December 12, 2005
Harry being the Horcrux could transcend the ultimate evil. We know Voldemort likes his dramatic gestures - i.e. no-one but Harry would do for his ressurection, because Harry’s blood would take his power above and beyond. A human Horcrux - WOW! The killing and the receptacle, all in one. Never been done before, therefore opening up a whole new series of possibilities to him. Harry being the prophesised only wizard with the power to defeat the Dark Lord must have aded a real eclat. Only the love charm caused it to backfire, and Voldemort was shattered. So now the Horcrux remains trapped in Harry - could it be in his SCAR? It causes him to feel echoes of what Voldemort is thinking and feeling - the echoes of a lost soul perhaps? Voldemorte might not even realise the fact - perhaps he meant to kill Harry then use the body to store his Horcrux in - like the shrunken heads in Borgin and Burkes. It would certainly add spice to the final showdown. It wouldn’tnecessarily be incompatible with the neither can live while the other survives prophesy.
December 13, 2005
I tihnk Voldemort would like to have a “complete set” type thing for teh horcruxes, so then yes i agree he’d want something from Ravenclaw. obviously this will be revealed in the next book
December 13, 2005
318-When amelia gave her middle name in the start of the hearing, it didn’t match the first initial.
December 13, 2005
Just a quick thing
RAB is definitly a member of the black family. I state the following as my evidence:-
In the Norwegian version of the book the Black family is known as :- Svaart (norwegian for black) and the initials left on the note have changed to R.A.S.
In the Dutch version of the book the black family is known as:- Zwart (dutch for black) and the initals left on the note have changed to R.A.Z.
Having read and re-read all the books i notice that family names are very important in the wizarding community (Tom ‘Marvolo’ Riddle, Ginny ‘molly’ Weasley etc) so its not that far a leap to find that Regulus’ middlename could be Alphard(his uncle) there fore giving him the RAB initals(in english anyway)
December 13, 2005
wow - Keshian, that is the best evidence I have heard for Regulus being RAB. It makes you wonder though, how it was worked out with the translators - they must have asked for the information from JK - otherwise, if they had just assumed it was Regulus, then they could have been causing problems when RAB is revealed in the 7th book.
just have to say on the Harry is Horcrux idea that I have read a lot - really don’t like it, it just makes no sense to me. Vold had undoubtedly wanted to kill Harry when he went to the Potters that day. Its very clear that he wanted to kill Harry as he saw him as the only threat to his power, due to the prophecy ‘the one with the power to vanquish the dark lord’. So harry couldn’t be a horcrux if he is dead. And I also don’t believe that he thought he could ‘control’ harry, as some have said, as the prophecy was pretty clear on this point.
I really do, however, think there is a clue in the prophecy about how one can’t ‘live’ while the other ’survives’. But I also don’t fully understand - even in the 6th book they are living and surviving at the same time - there must be something more to that.
December 13, 2005
what about RRs item could it have to do with luna lovegoods stuff getting stolen maybe someone is looking for somthing she has.
December 14, 2005
What about when snape didnt attack harry when they met by Hagrids cabin?
December 14, 2005
and why didnt snape attack harry?
December 14, 2005
I like when though every language and saw the first letter of black and put it in the R.A…. and when i googled Harry potter R.A… it always came up with a bunch of sites in what ever language so that confirms it is deffintly a black but i reread and read and rerread and the only black with the first name of R is regulus so im almost possitive because everyone nose that JKrowling always puts in things will come later. so they also mention in the second book that the poly juice potion tasted like rotten cabbage and in the 1st and 4th they say ms. figgs house smells like rotten cabbge. so maybe Regulus moved there next to harry the same year the “hobgoblins retired” (15 years ago) and when regulus died (15 years ago) Definately not a coinicidence. plus since she saids she is a squib the is no wizard regestered there!
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December 14, 2005
i agree thats sounds like it could easilly be correct, what else does it say about ms figgs?
December 14, 2005
Binky I like you too. You’re pretty smart too
AND FOR THE LAST TIME TO ANY AND ALL PEOPLE HARRRY IISSS NNNOOT A HORCRUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Why ould Voldemort try to kill a horcrux of his own..three times! JEEZ. PLS READ THIS B$ U POST ANOTHER MSG ABOUT HARRY BEING A HORCRUX. Hopefully it’ll change your mind. *sigh* sorry, just frustrating. =P
Question: Snape help Harry fight Voldemort? Or help Harry with the Horcruxes?
December 14, 2005
hey, heres something that enforces that snape is on the good side, after dumbledore was killed, harry chased after snape and draco, he caught up, and tried to curse snape, all snape ever did was reflect it!
December 14, 2005
332 that was cos voldy want 4 himself, josh i agree harry is not a horcrux, if voldy lives harry must be living and if harry lives voldy must be living so the prophecy foils that plan, and the hebrew version has RAN supporting regulus, there r two things that r naging me 1: regulus is a weak wizard how get past enchantments, two the locket im sure regulus would have destroyed iit. O also a while back people said that hermione was harrys sister wel then harrys magic of protection wouldnt work at the durslys… so … rite back
December 14, 2005
WHAT HAPPENS TO THE MISSING HORCRUX I really think this RAB thing is right and the locket found in the Black Mansion is the real Horcrux. But this is something extra that thout about and realised when Harry realises that the real horcrux is in the black Mansion its a bit too late coz Mundungus has stolen it from the place. I thought of that coz Dung turns up in Hogamead for no good reason at all. And Jk does not put people inplaces withuot any reason
December 14, 2005
I’m one of those who thinks that harry IS a Horcrux, but that he accidentally became one, because of his fathers or mothers death or even ,by his own near death!
Otherwise I would’nt know, how the Prophecy would make any sense ?!He has to destroy himself to destroy Voldemort.
The other funny ting is that Voldemort said that he did’nt want to have his filthy mugglefathers name, he still got it, just to rearange the letters to make a new Name , does’nt help anything, his fathers name is still in it!
December 14, 2005
harry is not a horcrux, Im really sorry you think that, how did voldemort make him one then if you think he is?
December 14, 2005
the only contact he ever had with Harry was that night, and he was about to kill him, so he wouldnt even of thought to make him a horcrux.
December 14, 2005
Does anyone no what mundungus was selling maybe it was one of the horhuxes and what does the black cresten look like it never says but at the end of the letter when they signed R.A.B there wqas like a little cresten thing under it!
December 14, 2005
some where i saw that REgulus full name was…
Regulus Arcturus Black which fits the whole R.A.B. thing but im not sure where i saw it. Also Regulus is a weird name so i googled it and i didnt see harry potter thing it was a constalation and the brightest star on the constalation lio of a lion i have to theories:
1)JKR says a lot to describe scrimgeour that he looked a lot like an “old lion who let his main grow out.”
2) A lion is a big type of cat. mrs. figgs as a stated earlier smells like rotten cabbage and so does poly juice potion and they state this in books 1,2, and 4 Ms. figgs has a lot of cats and she could be a big cat her self hahaha!!!!
December 14, 2005
I think that it is the second one, it makes a lot of sense, though Regulus being Scrimgeour would be a neat turn of events…
December 14, 2005
but where did you find Regulus’s middle name, becaue that makes no sense. though Arcturus follows the same constelation meaning line that Sirius and Regulus have, it even relates to Sirius
December 15, 2005
YA the second one i came up with and the first one i saw some one wrote it on this page i think. with his middle name i don’t know i was reading a website and it said jkr said it but you now how these thing are made up. i’m going to go see what exactly mundugus was selling but does anyone no what what the black crest really looks like? because i dont think it eve said? brb
~Jesie~
December 15, 2005
Mundungus was selling a bunch of things but JKR only mentioned one a goblet with the black cresten on it could it be hufflpuffs goblet? with the black cresten maybe regulus put on ther to conect him with voldemort? just ageuss problably not lol. that would seem like what a death eater would do to get closer with voldemort? got to go to ballet buh bye and COMMMENT ME BACK PLEEESES!
December 15, 2005
i dont think its a horcrux, i looked up Regulus Arcturus Black and all that came up was a bunch of persian blog sites, so i dont know, maybe it has something to do with the persian version of the HFP?
December 15, 2005
stuff that you arnt suppoust to know about book seven:
dumbldors brother is the bar man @ the hogs head. i know this because 1 he smlled like goat. (dumby said his brother was prosicuted for charming a goat) and 2 harry noticed some thing that rimined him of some thing
harry will be 17 in book 7
the last word in the book is scar
rab is reguas black(?)
harry will not team up with molfoy
lilly got a lot of money some how
December 15, 2005
hey in a interview JK says that the sorting hat will have a large part to play in the last book and people will be surprised by seeing its development, now four the fith time the sorting hat is a horcrux, we no its GGs it says in the fourth songs cum on people
December 15, 2005
the role it plays doesnt have to be that of a horcrux. yes it is GGs, but maybe its gonna help harry in the 7th book. who knows, that one is not one that i really know anythiong about, give some more stuff why you think it is
December 15, 2005
it thinks but doesnt have a brain, dumbledor overlooks it, u no hu would want a thing in hogwarts plus wot jk said
o and its ggs
December 15, 2005
i still have a hard time believing something that would sing to the school warnings of voldemort, would be a horcrux. because it warned the school to become more unified, exactly what voldy doesnt want
December 15, 2005
well, im just wondering how long it will take KJR to write the 7th book, i want to find out whats going to happen nxt.
btw, the theory with R.A.B being Regulus is quite understanable, it makes alot of sense and adds bits off the book together.
December 15, 2005
#345 - Alex - Rowling has already said that Dumbledores brother is the barman, and everyone knows Harry will be a year older in the next book. Anyone who hadn’t worked that out must have a screw loose. The last word being scar is well known also. JK has also mentioned the issue of Harrys money and how it’s a non issue. Harry parents had money and they gave it to him, it’s unimportant. As for Harry not teaming up with Malfoy… after what he did in the last book it’s unlikely they will, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they did.
December 16, 2005
yeah, that info wasnt really new, and i still think the whole thing about the sorting hat being a horcrux is total bs
December 16, 2005
so who thinks that dumbledore is really dead? i dont because in a normal Avada Kedavra curse, you arent shot backwards, you just fall, like when cedric died. in the book it said dumbledore was thrown over the ramparts
December 16, 2005
wel he was sitting on the ramparts and he fells off, also harry is the only person to survive avada kedavra plus it would be kinda anticlimactic for AD to b alive o and plus the spell lifted so therefor he is dead
and the sorting hat is a horcrux
December 16, 2005
not its not a horcrux, and it did say he was lifted up, and suspended in mid aire, not he merely slid off, he could have lifted th spell in the air or on the ground. and has anyone heard of ewhere his want is? it was flung of by draco, but its nowhere to be found. further proof…
December 16, 2005
the hat is not a horcrux*
December 16, 2005
I agree with 355 there is no wand and at the funeral it said DD suddenly erupted in a ball of fire (or something like that) what is the only other charechter in the book that has suddenly erupted into a ball of fire, thats right Fawkes and what happened after that
December 16, 2005
and also regelus black would be way too obvious RAB has to be someone else
December 16, 2005
im not sure f dumbledore is dead but there is proof he isnt and proof that he is. one thing leading me towards he is daed though is that it has been hinted that dumbledore would make a big mistake becuase when every one said dumbledore is always right or i trust dumbledore he said im not always right i can make a mistake and harry said it when he was talking at the table to lupin harry said he suspected snape was up to something and then lupin said but dumbledore trusts him and harry said maybe dumbledore made a mistake and lupin said dumbledore doesnt make mistakes and harry said even dumbledore said he could make a mistake so i think that was hinting that he was going to make a mistake about something right?
December 16, 2005
haha, that was the most confusing string of words i have ever read
but yes, but i dont think this was a mistake, because even if he was killed, he was asking severus to kill him
December 16, 2005
Binky
not sure if the hat is a horcrux….why would voldemort leave a horcrux in the castle? And how would dumbledore not sense the evil magic in it if it were. just thoughts. you could be right.
Jessie,
I agree i think mungdus is gonna play a role with the stuff he stole…. as well I think harry is going to visit # 12
December 16, 2005
ok um the hat is not a horcrux and not sure about dumbldore i think there is a possiblity that he is i mean his death was suppose to be dramtic right. BUT!!! snape said that the 3 forbidden curses don’t do anything if your hearts not in it, and maybe his wasnt cos it was planned with dumby before, and i think he would be alot angrier with the death eaters that question him if he had done all this work for the dark lord instead of bein calm and having his awnsers to every question pre perfected. also has anyone else noticed that its snape alone thats gets absolutly furious when harry does something that breaks the rules …so i think he is trying to protect him and keep him safe and gets angry that he is doing all this work to try and save him but have to pretend to hate him and then harry just breaks all the rules and does dangerous things. Snape has had many chances to kill harry and dumbldore for that matter without bein found out but he didnt and wouldnt voldy sacrafice snape to have them both dead?
December 16, 2005
yeah, Allie, i think youre really smart
i totally agree with that, snape did have a lot of chances to kill harry, and voldemort really is the type of guy to sacrifice one person for people like harry and dumbledore
December 16, 2005
personaly, i think the RAB/regulus connection is plausible, but too plausible. i’m sure half the readers over 10 years old figured that out. i’m smelling fish, of the red herring variety. what was the title of the last book? harry potter and the half blood prince. the half blood prince in itself is a title given/taken to/by a person. it is plausible that RAB is a title also. also another piece of evidence to refute regulus is the fact that #12 does belong to harry. i have read in other editorials saying that maybe if the next heir only appeared to be dead, or was pressumed dead, then it the heir’s inheiritance would be passed on. c’mon, inheiritance is one of the longest standing institutions created by man.
on another notem,lets ask ourselves, what are the major ends left to be tied?
*harry’s scar
*harry’s/voldemort connection
*the prophecy
these are just a couple off the top of my head, and please add to the list.
p.s. the more you read into it, the less likely it comes to pass. bear in mind that this series is a childrens one, and while though, it does have a fairly complicated plot, extreme guesses and speculation are just imaginary connections.
December 16, 2005
AD is dead and snape didnt kill harry because voldy wanted him for himself, also snape is either bad at heart or he has to be bad because of the unbreakable vow
December 16, 2005
but if snape killed harry any other time when voldemort was a “spirit” he would have become voldemorts fav but now that i think back on it the prophecy said only one can live while the other survives so voldemort probably told all of his deatheaters to spare harry throughout the 16 years
December 16, 2005
i think snape didnt kill DD because Snape is the one who everyone wants to hate and JKR whants them to probably because she will reveal a big twist in book #7
December 17, 2005
yup, i totally agree with you. but all we can ever do really is speculate
December 17, 2005
u smell b-dizzle
o and to da member voldy didnt give any instructions to the death eaters b4 his fall he didnt no he was guna like die
December 17, 2005
I saw some discussion on this qoute
“there are 6 missing death eaters, 3 are dead,
one too cowardly to return – he will pay (Karkorff ?)
one who has left me – he will be killed (Regulus)
one who remains my faithful servant – he will re-enter my service (Snape)”
Another reason to believe that Snape is his “most faithful servant” is when Malfoy and Dumbledore are speaking at the end of HBP. Malfoy says is was annoyed with Snape, that Snape was trying to take his glory, how Snape was trying to stay Voldemorts favorite.
I think that Snape is good, and this might be an important point that Voldemort trusts him.
Also If Snape is bad it goes against everything Dumbledore says and I can’t see JKR discrediting Dumbledores character that way. Dumbledore keeps saying there is a good reason to believe he is good and I’m sure we will find out in the last book.
Also there is too many similarities to Phoenixs, I think Dumbledore will be back.
December 17, 2005
I think Snape is on voldemorts side, firstly he took up the unbreakable vow thingy which shows how much faith he has. Secondly when Hermione and Ginny were waiting outside the office, Snape had hexed or jinxed Professor Flitwick, if he was good then he obviously wouldnt have done that.
December 17, 2005
the one to cowerdly is karkarof the one hu left him he thought as snape because he didnt come and the one hu remains faithful is crouch junior
December 17, 2005
How can Snape go from being “the one who has left me and will be killed” to as Malfoy says “his favorite”. Why didn’t Voldemort kill him when he returned then?
December 17, 2005
cos snape came with info on dumble, voldy wouldnt kill him rite away cos he wants to torture him, then wen snape tels him stuff he becomes the favorite
December 17, 2005
Ok, here’s my theory. At the beginning of book 6 snape didn’t really know what malfoy’s orders were he played along with cissy as long as he could and knew that if he didn’t agree to do the unbreakable vow what everyone would think. Also if malfoy had been given such an important mission it was going to be important to the order as well. So, when it came down to it either snape killed dumbledore or died himself and then one of the other death eaters would have killed him anyway, or without the help of snape the potion that he drank in the cave would have killed him. Snape probably thought he could do more good alive and still in voldermorts good graces. He probably wanted to save malfoy as well if he could. I do however think he has his own agenda and that he is gonna have to die no matter what his intentions were.
December 18, 2005
hmmm nice theory 375 but if that was so why would it be neccesary to a)stun flitwik, b)have hatred in his voice and c)dumbledor could do more for the order than snape
December 18, 2005
Hey. i think Snape IS good, as after all these years of Harry and Ron saying how evil he is, deatheater etc. i don’t reckon he will just be evil, its too simple and obvious. xXx
December 18, 2005
sorry, that wasn’t about RAB, i also think Regalus would be too obvious, JK makes things surprising! XxX
December 18, 2005
I though it was funny how Harry has a House-elf and hes in S.P.E.W.
December 18, 2005
-Snape is evil.
-Dumbledore is dead.
-No horocrux for Dumbledore
-Harry A Horocrux?
-Regulis Black did NOT destroy the Horocrux
December 18, 2005
Has anybody considered that Snape might have a bet each way? OOTP wins, “Here’s a bit of irrefutable evidence that says Dumbledore asked Snape to kill him if necessary”. Voldemort wins then he says “I killed Dumbledore, OK?” Either way, he wins. Now all he has to do is survive until one side or the other wins comprehensively.
December 18, 2005
Ok, when he made the unbreakable vow he promised to protect draco, help him if he could, and complete his mission if draco couldn’t. He stuned flitwick because it got one more person out of the way, he would have stuned any teacher who came in, notice he didn’t kill him or put the imperious curse on him and force him to help the death eaters. Do you mean hatred in his voice when he spoke to Harry at the end? I definately think he hates Harry, but I also think his character is more complicated than all good or all bad. Like I said Dumbledore was dead either way, Snape,s only decision was is he going to die too.
December 18, 2005
382 i meen the loathing etc in his eyes wen he kils dumbledor
December 18, 2005
It’s Regulus. I have facts that would make it almost impossible for R.A.B. not to be him. Fact is, I’m Dutch and I read both the Dutch and the English version of HP. It’s a great book but the names in Dutch are different. Regulus’ name is the same but his last name is “Zwarts”. At the end of the book, when Harry finds the note, in the English version the abbreveation is :R.A.B. In the Dutch version, it’s R.A.Z. Notice the last letter difference? Do the math, and I’ll think you find out that it should be Regulus.
December 18, 2005
OKAY. UR right severus has to put emotion and feelings to the forgivibale curse to make it work. Also i think harrys wand might be a horocrux , because in book 1 it said that voldemort has the same wand, and thats why in book 6 olivier the wand maker dissapeared to keep it secret or something
December 18, 2005
380…..Snape is definitly good……..Harry is not a Horcrux……I agree dumbledore doesn’t have horcruxes..but not completely sure he is dead.
December 18, 2005
The words to describe snape as he killed dumbledore were the same words used to describe harry as he fed the potion to dumbledore in the cave….that is why I believe what ever snape did was not something he wanted to do……but had to.
December 19, 2005
Josh you said ages ago that Harry is definetly not a horcrux otherwise why would VOldemort be trying to kill him? i agree with you that harry being a horcrux/harrys scar being a horcurx is pretty unlikely BUT the obvious conclusion is that maybe VOldemort doesnt knwo that Harry is a horcurx? just a thought
December 19, 2005
haha, what if harry is dumbledores horcrux?
December 19, 2005
and how could voldemort not know harry is a horcrux, what are you trying to say, hes really dumb or somthing, i dont know about you man…
December 19, 2005
ha ha thanks b-dizzle u are to, i just think that its too obvious that snape is good. i wonder if JK ever reads any of these posts to get ideas for her next book? what do u guys think
December 19, 2005
no, theres no way, haha, why would she ever read what we think, i mean, some of our theories could be way off. if she did, then i hope she read the one about harry dieng at the very beggining and ginny becoming the star
December 19, 2005
and maybe voldemorts to vain and self obsessed To realise that harry is a horcrux, maybe that’s why he got so hurt when the spell back fired. Also I remember Dumbledore saying to harry when harry asked if voldemort could tell if one of his horcruxs is destroyed and Dumbledore said that he probly couldn’t because his soul is so split and he is to wrapped up in himself.
December 19, 2005
why? if i was her and i was having writers block i would scope out what other people thought in things like this…..she might even be one of the poeple posting on it??? i mean everyone has some really good ideas *applause*
December 19, 2005
well, i have good ideas, and no one comments on them, maybe I am J.K Rowling, huh, ever thought of that, oh, wait, then that would mean that i do read and post on theses things
December 19, 2005
yep. ok tell me what are your biggest points or thoughts or questions and i will comments on them..i promise
December 19, 2005
it would be kinda hard to split yout soul and not notice dontcha think, and someone say something weird and interesting
December 19, 2005
who do u think they will get to play luna lovegood in the next movie?
December 19, 2005
maybe it’s self loathing or loathing of what he is going to have to do, or maybe he has to play the part because he is in front of 4 death eaters
December 19, 2005
Who will play as Luna Lovegood, hmm. i think it would probably be some girl that looks like professor Trawnealy(however u spell it) but at a younger age.
December 19, 2005
i want lindsay lohan to be in the movies, that would be good, she should have played ginny
December 19, 2005
Chris, what does your comment have to do with anything?
December 19, 2005
Assuming you all found my theory on 384 as to be acceptable, let’s go on to the Dumbledore making horcruxes part. Don’t think that’s true actually, because a horcrux is a very dark object and stuff and Dumbeldore wouldn’t do that. Then Harry wouldn’t be a Horcrux because Voldemort wouldn’t try to destroy his own. I think Snape still is a good guy and that the next book will be about Harry hunting down those Horcruxes and nothing else, which is good because I was kinda seeing a trend here. Harry leaves the Dursley’s, goes to school, does nothing there, gets into some love affair, something terrible happens, someone dies, let’s wait for next year. So yeah, part 7 better be damn good.
December 19, 2005
of course it will be Mr Negitive!!! the books never cease to amaze and capture the attention of millions and not to mention leave us talking about them on posts such as this. it will be fantastic, she is the tiger woods of childrens authors.
December 19, 2005
Well b-dizzle, im just giving my opinion to Allie #398
December 20, 2005
yes exactly and thank you for that chris
December 20, 2005
b-dizzle stop talking jk lol
#388 MW You cant creat a horcrux unknowingly, in ordr to make one it has to be the aim of the person to do that specifically.
Allie you have good theories, but I think snape is good.
Binky….youre awsome =D
December 20, 2005
Hey you guys, I agree with most of what Michiel said, anyone else?
December 20, 2005
haha, b-dizzle, no one likes you! jk
hey, i was just wondering, when harry caught up to snape outside hogwarts in book 6, and snape never really attacked him, you think that is because hes good, some people say its just because voldemort wants harry, but i think it is because snape is good.
December 20, 2005
brian, snape says thats why and also as voldymort said he wanted to kil him himself in the fourth so why not now, josh thanks u 2, b-dizzle (wot the hell kind of a name is tht) u stink get off the stage
hey howbig is the seventh book guna be he has to track down five horcruxs
and does any1 no the release date or name
o plus i watched the fourth HP film and do u think jk had any say in it cos like they added in loads such as cedric flying bakwards and moody saying no 1(snape???) stops being a death eaer
December 20, 2005
#409 thats what i thought hat snape must be good but at the same time like i have said before its a bit that weird that considering how hard it is to get his hands on harry when harrys defences are down why doesnt snape take harry to voldemort. i think snape hated what he had to do to dumbledore but he made him and wanted to protect harry any way he could without getting caught. I mean anyone that was a true death eater wouldnt just leave the person that is the greatest thret to their leader ven when he was defenceless and in shock, they could have done anything. but i guess then we wouldnt be getting another book….snape is definetly good.
December 20, 2005
i did sum digging in the books and found that in the 5th book that the message on the propofsy is the same as the note so it couls be a person that works at the dep of mysteries. it also says the dark lord and only his followers call him that. COuld it be? who knows?
December 21, 2005
plus snape vould have put any type of curse on harry to get him to voldemort. and how does binky know what josh thinks?
December 21, 2005
Binky, and micheal I think snape would say anything to convince them not to hurt harry, it may be true…..but i am sure that he said it to protect harry, as well as him self. I thinkthat there was a dua; reason behind him saying that, and not rally attacking harry. as well when he said no unforgivables from you potter, he was trying to keep harry pure…… just my thoughts.
Bdizzle youre alright, you just have some crazy theories…….. =)
December 21, 2005
Brain not micheal……….. lol
December 21, 2005
Can we change topic? This one is too hard to come up with conclusion…
December 21, 2005
heyh evan rockwood is a deatheater and worked in the department of mysterys… also u no hu would probably wont to get him himself? and the nol unforgivible curses is moking dontcha think
December 21, 2005
Nah I think he meant it in the way to keep potter a pure soul…….Snape has seemed bad for soooo long, and Harry has been the only one to belive it……. could save the world at this point harry would still think him to be evil….I think thats what Jk is doing, playing out the evilness of Snape to reveal him to play a large part of the fall of voldemort………
December 22, 2005
snape is good
December 22, 2005
yeah, she has played out snapes evil role a lot, i think we are going to figure out why dumbledore trusts/ed him so much in the 7th book.
December 22, 2005
Yeh snape has to be good, i would be surprised if he turned out to be bad!!!! just a question be honest…how old is everyone on this post? ha ha sorry to ask, what does everyone think about the new minister of magic?
December 22, 2005
@ 421. I don’t think the minister will play that much of a role in part 7, because if he would, everyone else would and the book can’t get that big. I like him more than Fudge though, he’s smarter. I also think that Snape is good, thinking of the way that Rowling put Dumbledore into the book, like some kind of godlike person. Rowling herself said: “Dumbledore’s greatest weakness is his intelligence, because this leaves him with solitude on top because he has no equals.” (not exactly those words, but that’s what she basically said). Still hoping you all didn’t miss my post @ 384, I think that the question on who R.A.B. is is pretty much over now. @ 414, I don’t think Snape tried to keep Harry pure, because in book 5 he already used an unforgivable curse anyway.
Short summarize:
R.A.B. is Regulus
Snape is good.
December 22, 2005
its not Regulus. Only the initials were given, so obviously voldemort knows who the person is. mayb its Borgin or Brukes. i mean one of them. some1 who actually knows that tom riddle has d locket or was tryin 2 obtain it. then
again he worked there after he left school. which makes a lot of sense. Regulus Blaack is a little 2 obvious. id guess its Brukes coz he isn’t there nelonger only Borgin runs the shop now.
December 22, 2005
Oh yeh, i remember somewhere on this post someone said that Karkaroff was a death eater. But then how come he was the head teacher or whatever for the Bulgarian school which Victor Krum went to. Wouldnt Dumbledore know he is a death eater.
December 23, 2005
a whole bunch of people are saying harry is a horcrux but wat i dont get is y voldemort wood make sum1 he was planning 2 kill a horcrux. ne ideas?
December 23, 2005
okay..i’ve read all the posts here..and some of them are really nice.
just a quick review of what we think:
rab is regulus..(no doubt about it frm my point of view..) everything we’ve found out is in FAVOR of rab=regulus. those who still have doubts, they may check earlier posts..r.a.b=r.a.z in dutch and r.a.s in norwegian bla bla..
only thing that bothers me, and thats againts black being RAB is..why would JKR make it so obvious? or is it because we’ve done soooo much thinking and research that its just us who thinks its obvious..?!?
one more thing, doesnt that locket horcrux have to have a slytherin mark(an S)..? the locket at #12 didnt hv one…
lemme know what u guyz think..josh, binky, b-dizzle…
December 23, 2005
another thing that comes to my head is..snape and DD.
okay, here it is as we accept it:
snape is good…okay. he did it on dd’s orders..that is if time comes then he should kill DD keeping aside his feelings. but just a quick thought-why did snape have to take that unbreakable vow in the first place? couldnt that have been avoided??
if we are all agreed that snape was good..and he hates harry but is on our side so he protects harry…then you know what i think is gunna happen in the 7th book? first thing that voldy would do when he sees snape is-kill him. remember how DD told harry how LVold likes to operate alone…he only needs someone until they are dead useful. and snape was until DD was alive, he was there to spy. now DD is dead…i dont think snape has much to offer to voldy.
so although snape’s good, he’ll be dead.
December 23, 2005
what? yeah, of course dumbledore knew, and why did you bring that up?
December 23, 2005
it was just a thought Brian….why would Dumbledore let Karkaroff into the school where Harry is. i might not know because i havent read book 4 for ages so i probably dont remember.
December 23, 2005
i’ve been thinkin wat wood happen if a dementor Kissed voldemort? the soul in him would be gone (where does it go?) but wat bout the other parts? any1 got theories? plz share them!
December 23, 2005
to #429..DD knew that Karkaroff was a DE, but he had enough faith that karkaroff wouldn’t dare try hurt harry in front of DD, and that too when he knew there was nobody to save him.
and to #430, firstly i dont think a dementor would kiss V..especially now since he’s come back and they’re on his side. and even if by some miracle, it did, then…maybe he would need the horcruxes for a part of his soul to come back..idk..this is just beyond the scope of hp7, a dementor kissing LV…
tell me wht you think about #427.
December 23, 2005
I bet Wormtail is going to save Harry’s life, Dumbledore tells Harry in Book #3 Quote “This is magic at it’s most deepest, its most inpenetrable, Harry. But trust me… the time may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew;s life”. I think Peter might get involved in the next book #7
December 23, 2005
it is mentioned in Book 5 as a “heavy locket” that none of the “cleaners” at 12 Grimmauld Place were able to open. It was put into a rubbish bag.
If my theory is correct, then Mundungus has the horcrux, because, the night Sirius died, he stripped the place clean and he probably sold it to someone.
What do you guys think of my theory?
December 23, 2005
DD knew karkaroff was a deatheater, but he ran away when voldemort died, so he didnt care, it even showed he as truly scared in book 4 when the dark mark on his arm was burning. so DD knew he wouldnt harm harry because he had “given up” his old ways.
#433- yeah, i think pettigrew will help harry somhow, maybe save his life, but that seems like a extravagent thing for a coward like peter to go against lord voldemort
December 23, 2005
One of the first things that occured to me was that Dumbledore was pleading with Snape to kill him thus ensuring Snape can get close to V. Earlier in the book, Hagrid reveals that Snape and Dumbledore had been arguing. The context adds to HPs suspicion that Snape is still a Death Eater; however, it also suggests that Snape was being given orders by Dumbledore which were unpalatable; such as “if necessary you may have to kill me”.
Has anyone else developed a mild dislike to HP during books 4,5 and 6? He acts as a spoilt brat for long spells (no pun intended). Shame Dumbledore wasnt able to impress upon HP the need to do as you are told.
December 23, 2005
Some of you people need to apply a bit of grammar and spelling to your posts, a lot of it is simply incomprehensible !
I don’t see how Dumbledore could be alive. His portrait is already on the wall in the headmistress’ office - if he weren’t dead, the portrait would not be there, I don’t think you can fool with the portraits, it must be some ancient and powerful spell, that hangs the portraits there each time a headmister dies.
December 23, 2005
No i still like HP. But i agree with the fact that it might be two people because remember how DD said. That 1 could not of done it alone. But also think in the note it says I. Not us. I also think that Regulas Black is the most obvious option maybe a little to obvious
December 24, 2005
#436- im suer dumlberdore culd put up a portrait, he si eht most powerful wizard, it doesnt and never has seemed like there has been a powerful magic curs on the prtraits. so i still want to know where dumbledores wand went, that is what i think is the key to knowing whether he is really dead or not
December 24, 2005
ok has anyone ever thought that maybe snape was with regulas when they got the locket and knows about it?
December 24, 2005
don’t think so #439..however i get the feeling that snape also knows (a lot maybe) about the horcruxes.
but i dont get this..if there’s a DD in the portrait, how much help can he offer? i mean..can he think like the real DD?
December 24, 2005
i don’t know maybe??? i mean sirius’s black grandfather’s portrait got really upset when he found out sirus was dead. and they all have their own opinions and everything. at first i thought they must just be memoties but they can also react and have emotions from the present aswell so im clueless
December 24, 2005
Yeh, i think the portraits are just like the ghosts. They can move around and go from one frame to another, remember how the fat lady got slashed. I think it would be the real Dumbledore, not some fake picture with just his memories.
Merry Christmas !
December 24, 2005
Regulus Black is dead. This is mentioned when they say that a previous death eater is dead and they are surprised he lasted as long as he did because Regulus died within a year. This would not stop him being RAB but it is a bit ovious so its probably a red herrring
December 24, 2005
So i went on vacation and was reading the 3rd book and its and i quoate from albus,” pettigrew owes his life to you. you have sent voldemort a deputy who is in your debt…. when one wizard saves another wizards life, it creates a certain band between them… and I’m much mistaken if voldemort wants his servant in the debt of Harr Potter.” This was said when harry thought that he save surius for naothing because peter still got away and is going to help voldemort come back alive like what proffessor tralweny said in her perdition also dumbledore mentioned the prophacy he said that brings her up to 2 real prodictions i should offer her a pay rise. so in the same page the prophcy is mentioned this could be a hint that peter owes his life to harry and may have to save him and we know even if he is evil so maybe is snape and he saved harry life becasue james saved his life so even if wizard hate one enough they still saved his life so peter in the 7th book maybe might save harrys life while voldemort dies!!!Right?But my theory that snape is good is that in the 5th book when he is taking occmency with snape and is explaining what it is he said only a really good occlemen can lie to the dark lords face and have him think it is true almost no one can do it that is why voldemort always says i no when you are lying i always know. so maybe since they say snape is a ah-mazing oclemen this means he alone can lie to voldemoret What do you think?
xoxo,
Jessie (Happy Hoilidays!)
P.S. I heard whispers that JK Rowling is righting an
8th harry potter so excited!!!!!!
December 24, 2005
p.s.s It’s my Birthday!!!!!!!!
December 24, 2005
really, an 8th harry potter, what else is there going to be to write about. well, happy birthday and merry christmas.
yeah, i think that snape is probably the only one who can lie to voldemort, and does anyone know when the 7th is gonna be released?
December 24, 2005
She probably just got started on the 7th book, so that would make it almost impossible to know when she is releasing it. I don’t think it’s going to be done for a couple of years.
December 24, 2005
All the theories about Regulus being Scrimageor are missing something. I don’t know whether to believe them or not because Sirius was still alive when Rufus Scrimageor worked in the ministry. After Sirius died though, Rufus S. became the Minister of Magic. Someone in the order (i think it was moody) said that Rufus had been in the department of aurors, or something like that. You would think Sirius would have probably heard about Rufus working in the ministry and you would expect Sirius to become suspicious. But maybe Sirius never heard about Rufus.
Oh and if Sirius is Ms. Figg, why didn’t he cast the spell on the dementors. Maybe he knew harry could cast the patronus, but he was still risking getting Harry expelled. Or maybe he din’t have his wand with him, but you would still expect him to have done something for Harry. Or maybe Regulas is an animagus. There are so many possibilities.
Happy Birthday Jessie!
December 24, 2005
Oh, and for all of you who think RAB is Amelia Bones, in the 5th book on the bottom of page 138, “Interrogators: Cornelius Oswald Fudge, Minister of Magic; Amelia Susan Bones, Head Department of Magical Law Enforcemen:”
AMELIA SUSAN BONES unless she changed her name it’s not going to be her guys!
December 24, 2005
does anyone know what the black cresten is? because if it is something that looks like a triange then it is signed at the bottom of the letter from RAB does anybody no?
thank you for da happy birthdays
xoxo,
jessie
p.s.
I
December 24, 2005
my ps got cut off sorr i said i wuv EJ!!
December 24, 2005
I think that in the end of the 5th book Dumbledore actually wanted Snape to kill him. Because earlier in the book Snape and Dumblecore were fighting and i think dumbledore was aking snape to kill him later but snape wouldnt agree. I think dumbledore didnt want snape to break his unbreakable vow he had made at the beginning and not kill dumbledore because then he would die and snape needed to be alive because he was a spy. I know everyone probably thinks snape is bad but at the end of the 5th book snape kept calling all the death eaters off harry saying that he was to be left for voldemort himself, but still he did get all the death eaters to stop attackting harry. And he only reflected harrys spells he didnt hit him with any himself. I think we are all just led to believe that snape is so evil when really he isnt because dumbledore must have a good reason for trusting snape, even if he doesnt feel like revaling it to everyone. Dumbledore is sooo smart that i just have to trust him when he says snape is good. Plus because snape is such a good occlumens it would allow him to lie to voldemort without voldemort knowing because he could conceal his lies! Oh and i heard that there was an 8th book too! ha ha lol Jessie happy Birthday!!!!!
December 24, 2005
oh my bad in my last thingy i meant book 6 whenever i said book 5
December 25, 2005
What does everyone think about Ms. Figg being regulus because it definately makes sense! give me you thoughts?
December 25, 2005
Ms. Figg is taking the polyjuice potion and is regulus because:1) She has tons of cats and regulus is the brightest star on leo the lion the constalation! JKRowling has done this before because surius is the brightest star on some dog constallation!A lion is like a big cat! Right
2) her house smells like rotton cabbage and the polyjuice potion smells like rotton cabbage. So she could be regulus. and ms. figg sadi and i quote again “Of course i know dumbledore everyone knows dumble dore.”
and if you think about ti everyone does know dumbledore isn’t that weird?
give me more ideas!!!
December 25, 2005
Yeh its weird but she might turn out to be someone else, not regulas.
Merry Xmas everyone and happy birthday Jessie xoxoxoxo
December 25, 2005
yeah she might maybe someone that maybe will help harry in the future i reli hope there is an 8th harry potter then my life is complete lol!!!
December 25, 2005
lol its sad aye i mean here i am on xmas day in new zealand talking about harry potter lol.
anyway i think there are some things that might just be what they are like miss figgs and the minister but u never know. i kinda wish i was Jk and i was writing this book, i know exactly what i would put in it
December 25, 2005
oh ant to #88 didnt it turn out to be doloris who ordered the attack of the dememtors on harry, why isnt she is azkaban and why was she at DD funeral? shes obviously evil
December 25, 2005
Happy Christmas to Everyone!
December 25, 2005
everyone does know DUmbledore, i dont think its weird because he was like one of the most powerful wizards, even Voldemort feared him.
But i agree with the idea that Ms Figg is someone else, not really sure about how it’s Regulus. Just a thought, could it be Filch, they both love cats, both are squibs and have the same initials, A.F. But i doubt it because Filch hates Harry.
December 25, 2005
don’t think its filch but i guess anything can happen in this book. and dumbledore is to smart of a wizard to let death be the end of him. he will come back as goast or portrait or maybe alive again but he is coming back. there is too much un finised business with dumbledore
December 25, 2005
dunno..but i dont think mrs. figg would turn out to be anyone..i mean, all the surprise element about her was already over when she turned out to be a squib in ootp and told harry she knew all about dementors and DD..maybe im wrong..but sorry it doesnt sound sumthing like jkr would do..
merry christmas to everyone and belated HBday to jessie!
December 25, 2005
haha, neo, the matrix, al right, i think that he is mrs figg, because it really does fit, and it is somthing that JKR would do, merry christmas
December 25, 2005
hey AD are dumbledors initials why r u saying DD
happy xmas
ansd happy hannukah
hey i remember hearing somewer that artokulus is regulusis midle name
December 25, 2005
#463 Regulus’ middle name is Alphard, i think…It was Sirius and Regulus’ uncles name. Maybe they’re sayind “DD” because it stands for DumbleDore, lol i thought u would of known that.
December 26, 2005
no i thought that two but someone askced about regulus in an interview (if he would be in the future books) jk said ‘regulus artoculus blak is dead, so it would be pretty hard for him to be in the next book
December 26, 2005
what interview did it say his real name because maybe it was a clue of some sort but i also read an interview that someone asked if surius brother was going to be in any of the book and it said the “He is dead so he is pretty quiet these days ” but i realised that that interview was from a long time ago like right after the 5th came out so is it a recent interview?
December 26, 2005
oh yeah and i read one interview that said to jk that after all the books are writen which chararictor would you take out to lunch and jk said she would take Harry and apologise for all the things she put him though. So i think that is weird that she would say that because that was like talling us he would live!!!!
December 26, 2005
What do you guys think will happen to Malfoy, now he cant go to Hogwarts and is Voldemorts servant. DO you think he’ll play a big role in the next book?
December 26, 2005
i think he could very well play a role in the next book but it will be tradgedy for him.
December 26, 2005
In Dutch, the name of Black is “Zwarts”. And in de Dutch version of the Halfblood Prince the letter ends with R.A.Z. So I think its Regulus Black
December 27, 2005
I think most of your theories are true and are very interesting but, other theories of yours are so amazing that it couldnt possibly be true that most probably most of you are just trying to make theories even though they are all just speculation and they still dont make sense…But most of the theories are good though! Its just that all the rest are so confusing! I think i stopped at #130’s its all just too much! bye!
December 27, 2005
Hey guys, i have been convinced that Dumbledore is dead, but this is some proof that he is might still be alive, i found it in the other forum page. please give me your thoughts.
“Remember the scene in Dumbledore’s office in The Order of the Phoenix when Harry almost gets busted for “Dumbledore’s Armyâ€, then Dumbledore himself takes the fall for it and knocks all the ministry members out. well to escape he grabbed onto Fawkes’ tail and there was a flash of white light then he dissapeared. Well at the end of The Half Blood Prince at Dumbledore’s funeral, right at the end, before the tomb encases him, Fawkes flies right over top of him, there is a flash of white light and then the tomb closes. is it possible Dumbledore grabbed his tail and did that weird kind of apparating thing again?, i’d like to think so…it’s very unlikely but a possibility.”
December 27, 2005
wow, thats a good theory, did you come up with it yourself?
December 27, 2005
no i didnt, i saw it posted by someone else in a different forum. In the saerch engine on the binary moon, type in harry potter and you will see the other forum. It has only a few posts but pretty good theories
December 27, 2005
true thats very weird but very possible. but people would have seen him grab the phoneixs tail wouldnt they? what does everyone think about my post about umbridge?
December 27, 2005
Yea i was wondering why umbrige wasnt locked up. its been 2 years maybe shes out. There are no dementors guarding the prison either though. Any1 can escape now. Or Fudge probably got her out of Azkaban somehow.
December 27, 2005
heey,
I think we are all wondering wheter R.A.B. is Regulus Black or not. In dutch Black is translated as Zwart. And yes, the note is signed with R.A.Z in the dutch translation. This means, i think, that it is nearly certain that R.A.B is a black.
December 27, 2005
I think the sorting hat is a horcux because all of the founders owned it. It would makes sense because it could be like the final horcux and the most important one.
It would also explain why Riddle returned to Hogwarts whilst Dumbledore was there because Riddle knew that he could of got the job. And during the memory Riddle did a flick with his wand but it turns out he doesnt attack Dumbledore. He could of been switching the hat, returning the hat or turning it into a horcrus
December 27, 2005
Sorry to burst your bubble but Rowling just added a paragraph on her website that says point blank that the sorting hat is not a horcrux. I could not believe this because it leaves the sword as the only Gryffindor object left (unless there is an unknown one in the room of requirement, or possibly Harry as a descendant). If anyone wants to check out Rowling’s website it’s at http://www.jkrowling.com. here is a lot of interesting stuff in the FAQ section as well as the rumors section.
December 27, 2005
if there are no guards at azkaban then how come malfoys dad hasnt escaped? and im sure even if Umbridge was locked up pr was she would at least havebeen kicked out of the ministry and not attended dd funeral i mean she ordered the dementors on harry and everything and tried to make hiom drink truth serum which is illegal to give students
December 28, 2005
Well they must have alternative guards and speels guarding the prison. Umbridge probably didn’t escape, otherwise, there would have been a bunch of people arresting her at Dumbledore’s funeral. I’m sure Voldemort has the power to help Lucious malfoy escape, but he doesn’t feel the need to.
December 28, 2005
but how id she get away from the centaurs in the first place?
December 28, 2005
i totally believe that this was RAB=regulus black. BUT WHATS THIS?????? is JKR just messing with us????
* Cathedral: Will we be hearing anything from Sirius Black’s brother, Regulus, in future books?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days.
December 28, 2005
Regulus whole name is Regulus Arkturus Black…
December 28, 2005
Do u think dumbledore IS a horcrux of Voldermort?
December 28, 2005
This is a bit late but #444 was talking about how Peter Pettigrew has the bond with Harry. I think in the next book to repay the debt he will have to save Harrys life. To do this he will kill Fenbrer or whateva his name is. This is because Peters new silver hand. Silver is the only metal that can be used to kill a werewolf.
December 28, 2005
Also i just had a thought. Why wasnt Aberforth Dumbledore at Albuses funeral. At least i dont remember any mention of him. He would of definetly been there if he was alive which suggests he may not be alive any more.
This is just a thought there if no proof.
December 29, 2005
487-If Dumbledore was a horcrux he would be evil and trying to kill Harry, it isn’t possible.’
Ali-I think Dumlbedore mentioned finding Umbridge in the forest before he came to save Harry from Voldemort.
Porge-I would have never thought of the silver hand, but did it mention silver kills werewolves in HArry Potter? I don’t remember if it mentioned it, do yoou know which book?
December 29, 2005
Dumbledores not a horcrux, hes not evil. If he was he would have been trying to save HArry.
Ali-I think Dumbledore said he found Umbridge before he went to rescue him from Voldemort
Porge-Thats a good idea, but i don’t remember it mentioning how silver kills werewolves, which bok was that?
December 29, 2005
hmm..so we’re back on the silver hand. well, when pettigrew got that hand in GoF, it did look pretty odd to me, coz obviously silver is the only thing that kills werevolves(remember the movies like silver bullet? blade?) but so far it HASN’T been mentioned in any hp book that this may be so. even then, the only werewolf known to us at that time was…Lupin. but its ok, we’ve got fenrir now, and killing fenrir would be a lot more sensible thing to do..especially that pettigrew is in harry’s debt.
ps. sorting hat isn’t a horcrux, and jkr did say that regulus is dead..so we’re still one short of a horcrux..and maybe figgs isn’t regulus after all.
and about DD..he’s dead:(
December 29, 2005
well, umbridge still shouldnt have been at the funeral and should definetly not be allowed in the ministry astill….does nobody else find that weird??
December 29, 2005
ey, i think i remember Dumbledore saying that Aberforth had a big liking for cats. If im right, then maybe Aberforth could be Mrs Figg.
-She couldnt help Harry when he was being attacked by Dementors…Dumbledore said that Aberforth was somewhat of an idiot, so he wouldnt know how to conjure the patronus.
-Mrs Figg has lots of cats
And for the funeral, it mentioned Mrs Figg there so maybe it was just Aberforth in disguise with the polyjuice potion.
December 29, 2005
Though I have not read all of the above posts, I have this to say and I believe it to be an original thought: In addition to OR including R.A.B. we have been told of only Five LIVING souls who have been inside Voldemort’s cave, Tom M. Riddle, Harry Potter, A. Dumbledore, and the tow children from the orphanage, Dennis Bishop AND Amy Benson. As an orphan it seems very posssible to me that this girl could be R. Amy Benson. She would have known of Tom’s proclivities long before any adult wizard, and have had reason to fight him. She may even be a wizard (as R.A.B. must be IF we are to assume that the locket Harry finds on Dumbledore’s dead body is the one found in the cave, and NOT a clever switch). Also it seems very likely to me that R.A.B. may be a woman; as it is Rowling’s style to want to throw us (and we have widely discussed only male candidates such as Borgin of Borgin and [Caractacus] Burke’s). Also We (the HP community) have been told by Rowling (in interview, not in a book YET) that the Hog’s Head barman is Aberforth, Albus Dumbledore’s brother. He may well be a step or half brother etc. and have a different last name from Albus. R.A.B. could by this logic be Aberforth. I greatly hope that it is Amy Benson, as I hope Snape is a vampire and Mundungus Fletcher is the REAL HBP!!
December 29, 2005
i doubt it because why wouldnt he show his true colours. On the night where Mrs Figg reveals herself she says she cant do any magic and if it was Aberforth he would aparate to Dumbledore to tell him the news.
Bertie i dont recall anything being said about silver in the books but in loads of other films and books it says about silver so i just carried it on.
December 29, 2005
#489 albforth was at the funheral he is the barman at the hogs head and harry said he didt no his name!
December 29, 2005
o i just read that. That makes sense then. Why wasnt Aberforth in the Order the second time. Harry would of known who he was then
December 29, 2005
ok ok so nobody finds the umbridge thing weird but i can respect that.
December 30, 2005
allie-Harry has no proof that umbrigde did other then he said it to her but the only people who heard was hermione ron draco crabbe and goyle. and they cant say that harry said that he new dumbledore wouldn’t mind that she was there.
December 30, 2005
Dud anybody thought of the pensive in the office? I just thought that dumby might left some important memory in it.
December 30, 2005
In the 7th book which characters do you think will start having a bigger role?
I think Aberforth and Harrys mum.
Also i think they will find a horcrux at Godrics hollow because thats where Harry is starting his search from.
I would like to hear everyone elses thoughts
December 30, 2005
My Beliefs:
- R.A.B May or may not be Regulas Black (Yes i know about the translations “Zwarts” and everything but remember that JK Rowling tends to put as much red herrings in her books as clues
- i think it is very possible that Hermione is Harry’s older sister. Remember both Hermiones parents are muggles so that adds to the fact that she may well have been adopted by her new parents. Also remember in the third book when she comes out from her DADA test (the boggart) and said that the boggart turned into proffesor McGonagall and said she had failed everything?
that sounds like a cover up story to me (whether it had anything to do with her being harrys sister or not) another reason i believe Harry and Hermione are related is the repitition of the letter H at the start of their names (yes i know its small but JK Rowling does tend to put alot of thought into the names she gives her characters.)
- i am totally on the fence about the horcruxes and will have to do much more research into the subject until i have a definite opinion on what is/isnt a horcrux
- I also am unsure about Snape on one hand JK Rowling could be trying to trick us into thinking Snape is good or tricking us into thinking Snape is bad…cheech this is confusing i think i need some sleep lol.
December 30, 2005
Evan
You make an interesting point about Amy, though since the woman at the orphanage only said the Tom was different, I highly doubt she would be a witch. As well your crazy to belive Snape is a vampire, or that Mundungus is the HBP, I hope you are joking lol.
Allie,
I absolutly agree with you 100 percent. After the whole thing at hogwarts and what she did, how is she still allowed to be in the ministry. For that I hate the ministry as much as I do Voldemort!!!! It is ridiculous to think that someone could do such things as make someone write in their blood….ect and still hold a respected position in the ministry.
December 30, 2005
hi, i just want to say that i agree with xcelion and ginny because in one of the books, Dumbledore said that death was just another great adventure. i don’t he was afraid of dying.
December 30, 2005
kreacher seems to have a messed up past—did he have anything to do with voldy?
December 30, 2005
porge–i agree with you except i think that maybe hell only find a clue he wont find the horcrux.
godric’s hollow:
is it just a coincidence that the place that harry’s parents lived was named after the leader of gryffindor????? could a horcrux possibly be found from gryffindor in the place named after him?
December 30, 2005
I think Snape is good. Now in the death eaters everyone would trust him and he would still be able to pass information onto the Order.
Im also having superstitions about Dumbledores death and his returning. In two other films ‘Lord of the rings’ and ‘The lion the witch and the wardrobe’ a powerful person is killed whilst protecting others. Because of this they are resurected. Dumbledore died to save Harrys life. He may return
December 30, 2005
i have to say that Garrett Fairbairn has a very good prediction of what’s going to happpen in the next book , there are very good theories. although i’m not so sure about the sorting hat being a horcrux, but i’ll try to figure it out.
December 30, 2005
to 185,Allie, i’m sorry to say that i disagree with you in saying that Harry is a horcrux. I JUST DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE!!! i also think he’s not a horcrux because i think Dumbledore would have noticed or figured it out, him being the brillant man he is or was? tell me what you think!!!!
December 30, 2005
who is garrett Fairbairn? and THE SORTING HAT IS NOT A HORCUXES. JK rowling said on her offical that it was a rommour!!!! what is ms. Figgs first name?
December 31, 2005
to bertibott, i think your right about malfoy somehow in the end helping Harry kill Voldemort. At the end of the last book malfoy was not very eager to kill dombledore and i don’t think he was very eager to become a deatheater, he was only doing it because he knew if he didn’t both him and his mother would die. But i’m not too sure about wormtail helping harry and if he does it will only be because he scared. tell me what yoou think!!!!
December 31, 2005
to jessie, it’s arabella
December 31, 2005
i read in an interview that godric hollow and gordric gyrifindor will come into play in a book to come this was around the time of the 5th book coming out the person asked “does it have anything to do with godric as tyhe name as the house and the house in which his parents lived.” and jk said your a smart one. this could mean that something is in godric hollow these r both places that harry only called home. all she said that harrys eyes have something to so with some something and that is why everyone always says that he has lilys eyes.( Also something i just wanna say that i fiqured out that in the 5ht when harry was in snapes memory of when they were at skool James was writeing on a peice of paper L.E. and i figured out what it ment Lily potter i just tyhought it was cool lol!!!) soo…… anyway i was looking in like all the books to try and find any power that you have to use your eyes in and the only thing i could find was occelmen and legiamen (how ever you spell it lol) there something that just feels like it goes togther there of that so give me some ideas:)
xoxo
December 31, 2005
Just though of one more thing that i read it said that in the 6th book when harry was at the weasleys that they found igor karkaroff body a year after and then they just happen to slip in regulus’s name by saying that he only lasted a copual days. and in the 5th it said that he had died 15 years ago. which would have been right when u no hoo died isnt that weird. maybe he didnt die he just disappeared when the “dark lord” fell.
Again ideas please lol!!!!
xoxo
December 31, 2005
Oh and i keep for getting to write that ms. figgs first name is aRABelle soooooo…..
If RAB is regulus then its like RAB(regulus) is inside aRABelle figgs. and see # 455for full detail on my thoughts lol!!!(reli look it makes sense!!! (Even if i aam wrong lol!!!))
xoxo
December 31, 2005
Hey guys, I am going to start posting on this journal because it is obviously becoming the most popular on the site, if anybody is interested in another set of theories just put HBP in the search feature above and click on the journal and it will take you to another 500 or so. Anyway I wanted to bring something up on this journal that I already put on the other one. If you remember in the first book, when Harry is reading the back of Dumbledore’s chocolate frog card, it is explained that Dumbledore is known for his work on alchemy with Nicholas Flamel and presumably the development of the sorcerors stone. If this is true wouldn’t that mean that Dumbledore is almost 700 years-old like Flamel. It seems necessary that Flamel developed the stone in his first seventy years or so (before he died a mortal death without the elixir of life) and if Dumbledore helped him he would have to be about the same age as Flamel. This possibility seems even more possible when you consider Harry’s continued assertions that Dumbledore is beginning to look old from the fourth book on. When the sorcerors stone was destroyed in the first book it would have surely sealed Dumbledore’s death in the next few years without the continued use of the elixir. The only hit on this theory is the signs of aging between Tom Riddle’s chilhood and Harry’s (hair color changing from auburn to gray). If Dumbledore was truly this old it would open some interesting possibilities, as well as explaining the origins of Dumbledore’s firm grasp on the true nature of death. I would like to hear what others think of this possibility and what people might think it might mean for the seventh books.
December 31, 2005
517, i don’t quite understand what yuo’re getting at, are you trying to say that Dumbledore was using the elixir of life??
December 31, 2005
Yes, if he helped Flamel create the stone he would have had to use the elixir also (unless you buy into the Fawkes is a horcrux theory). I can’t see any other way he could have been around some 600 years before to help Flamel with his work on alchemy.
December 31, 2005
pk i admit that the soprting hat isnt a horcrux although it was a pretty good theory on my part, thank you porge for supporting the theory, jkr says that the silver-werewolf thing important, and i gues why wasnt aberfroth at the funeral
December 31, 2005
ok i know this really isnt on the subject of The Half-Blood Prince book but…. i wondered what other peoples feelings were towards Sirius dying in the last book.. when i read that he died i was almost SURE that he was going to come back alive in the future but after i read “The Half Blood Prince” i now am sure that he wont come back because of Dumbledore dying- (or not dying, whatever the case may be). Because If JK makes Dumbledore live again she can hardly have Sirius do the same thing can she?, shes too good a writer for that. soo the question now is Who will return (if either) Dumbledore or Sirius??
also when you think about it knowing that the last word in the 7th book is “scar” it doesnt sound very promising for Harry…
December 31, 2005
519, No i don’t buy into the Fawkes is a horcrux theory because I do not believe Dumbledore would do something as evil as making a horcrux, but still am not sure if he would drink the elixir of life maybe there’s another way or maybe he’s just fit but it’s a very good point and it could be true.
January 1, 2006
All very interesting theories, only JKR knows for sure. I read she will begin writing the final book in 2006 for a 2007 release.
To chime in on a couple strings on this journal…
1. Harry is not a horcrux. Someone will have to kill LV’s snake though and destroy the 3 other parts of LV’s soul. Perhaps R.A.B. did that already.
2. HG and RW said they will help Harry in his quest. It seems possible that one or both of them may die protecting Harry giving him the power of love that destroys Voldmort.
Snape describes to Bellatrix Lestrange and Draco’s mother in the HBP why he was unable to kill potter when they approach him to make the unbreakable vow. Snape had an excuse for everything.
Snape has to be good. Why else would he need to be so accomplished at Occlumency? How else would Dumbledore know this about Snape if he didn’t know Snape could block his thoughts for LV, a great leglimens. He can’t let the dark lord know his true thoughts.
January 1, 2006
HEY JESSIE
yeah, your theories acrtually make a lot of sense, I dont really see how there is any other person, plus, mrs figgs role in HP hasnt really been defined yet, so, being RAB rally could be it. and yeah, it does make sense, lol
January 1, 2006
by the way, happy new year
January 1, 2006
to every1 whodoubts snape being good, u r all wrong, i think he is good, and i also have a theory that dumbledore wuz already dead at the start of book 6. if u remember in book1 snape says he can put a stopper to death, maybe he did for dumbledore then when dumbledore said to serverus “please severus” he wuz askin him to kill him. thats my theory neway.
January 1, 2006
#523 i dont think Ron will go with Harry. In their first years when Ron looks into the mirror and sees himself as the quiditch captain and the head boy, i think that was actually the future and when Harry leaves Ron will become head of quidditch team.
What I am waiting for is when the death eaters go and try to take out Fred and George Weasley. It will be interesting because Fred and George are so powerful.
January 1, 2006
there r 2 things i believe
1. R.A.B is definetly Regulus Black cause Rowlings style of writing in the books is the same like if theres a mystery facts about it in the previous books or in the book the mysteries in.
2. I believe also that in book 5 they have that bit about in 12 grimmauld place theres that locket no one could open so kreature took it. i think its the horcrux that may have been destroyed by regulus it may not have so i think in book 7 harry goes back to 12 grimmauld place
have u heard their releasing the twelf book on 07/07/07 ?
January 1, 2006
we might have to wait a year and a half til the last book comes out
January 1, 2006
ooo i found some other people that could be R.A.B (in the black family) Sirius’s uncle Alphard (most probably Alphard Black) - although im still pretty sure its Regulas
— another thing we gotta take into consideration the fact that R.A.B (if it is a girl) MAY have got married so her last name may not be Black anymore.
January 1, 2006
another Black member Andromeda Black (married Ted Tonks) - Tonks’s mum and dad
January 1, 2006
I keep on checking the books but it doesn’t have enough proof !!!
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January 1, 2006
hehe same here ive kind of gone on a HP craze the last few days. i just feel i cant rest until ive worked out whats going to happen
January 1, 2006
i just cant imagine what its going to be like in the 7th book.. im getting REALLY paranoid about the ending.. god i hope its a happy one
January 1, 2006
i have a general idea but the way shes left clues that r impossible to find is really fustrating !!!
January 1, 2006
do u think j.k rowling is the best author ? i say yes
January 1, 2006
i think Kreacher had teamed up with regulus to steal the locket horcrux because dumbuldore said one person couldn’t get that horcrux alone and the boat to get to the island with the horcrux on could only hold one fully qualified wizard so it was perfect and Kreacher took the locket because it says in book 5
January 1, 2006
The next book is definitely going to be action-packed, i mean so many things have to happen, i can’t wait!!! p.s Happy New Year!!!
January 1, 2006
Ollie, Kreacher woodnt listen to Regulus
January 1, 2006
536— definitey! shes so talented at it. it makes me really sad to think that there is only one more book to come out.
if Regulas IS R.A.B then i reckon that he was given a mission by Voldemort to put the Horcrux (the one Harry and Dumby found) into the middle of the lake. But Voldemort didnt tell Regulas that it was a horcrux and Regulas just assumed it was something important so he agreed to Voldemorts orders (not that he had much choice lol)
but THEN he found out that it was a horcrux and instead of putting the REAL horcrux into the middle of the lake he put the fake one with the note inside it.
therefore he wouldnt have needed an accomplace with him to drink the potion because he was only placing the horcrux in it, not attempting to take it out
January 1, 2006
oo another thing—- the A may stand for AND so it could be (a surname beginning with R) And Black
but in that case if it were two of them… how would they have gotten in to the boat.. because as Dumbledore said the boat was measured by magical strength which means at least one of them had to be underage or both extremely non-magical
January 1, 2006
oop sorry #537 my last paragraph basically said what your note said
January 1, 2006
i don’t feel like reading all the comments xD
Anyway, it HAS to be Regulus Black. I read the books in Dutch, and in Dutch “Regulus Black” and “Sirius Black” are “Regulus Zwarts” and “Sirius Zwarts”
The initials left in HBP in Dutch were “R.A.Z.”
January 1, 2006
#527 Porge, your theory of how Ron saw himself being Head boy and Quidditch captain in the mirror might just be true. Because Harry saw his parents when he looked into the mirror, would that mean that Harry is going to die and see his parents?
January 2, 2006
The mirror showed them what their hearts desired not the future for Harry he really wanted to be with his parents so thats what it showed him, Ron wanted to live up to his brothers’ standards so he saw himself being a success at school too. It does not show the future. The writing across the top when read backwards even says: I show not your face but your hearts desire
January 2, 2006
sure the mirror isnt specifically designed to show the future but theres a very good chance that it could indeed be what happens in the end.
its kinda JK’s style
January 2, 2006
This is about the so-called horcrux found in the cave. If it wasn’t a horcrux, how could it respond to Accio horcrux? Also, according to Dumbledore, two people were needed to get it. If Regulus got substituted the lockets, who helped him? Since horcruxes have supposedly special properties, why did the lack of these not nullify the protection spells? I suspect that a switch was made somewhere and that the real horcrux was retreived from the cave.
January 2, 2006
543- that is a very good point which i think may prove that regulus is RAB.
i would like to say that i do not believe that dumbledore is really dead, because it is obvious that snape is a very powerful wizard (right now i would say he is probably one of the most powerful in the book). if snape was really evil i think that he would have definitely at least attempted to kil harry and the others at the end of book 6 when the death eaters were running away. i think dumbledore is not actually dead, but possibly very much injured, and like it says on dumbledoreisnotdead.com i think that he asked snape not to kill him, but to fake killing him.
when harry tries to put the cruciatus curse on bellatrix lestrange in the ministry, bellatrix tells him that he must mean it, so i think that if snape had not meant it, the spell could have just seriously harmed dumbledore, and also on dumbledoreisnotdead.com, it says how dumbldore flew off of the tower, but when other people in the book were killed with avada kedavra, they just fell into a crumpled heap, which i think may be true for dumbledore. he made himself fly off the tower, and only tell the his close friends (who he also had take away his body) that he was not dead. this way he could at least continue to look for horcruxes, and have no one tell harry for some reason, probably because he wants harry to stay at hogwarts to finish his education (which actually backfired). i think that jk will probably throw a twist into the 7th book such as having us learn that snape is actually good, but then having him (when voldemort offers him eternal life or all-powerfullness or something) turn evil. i think dumbledore had many more and better reasons for hiring snape than just him crying back to him after he left the death eaters. dumbledore is smart and probably a very good legimens and occlumens, so i think he would be able to figure out if snape was actually good or not. please let me know what you think.
January 2, 2006
there seems to be a huge thing about the number 7, think about it..
-Voldemort (probably) tried to make 7 horcruxes
- the 7th and last HP book (coming out on 7.7.07??)
-Ginny is the 7th child in the Weasly family
- Dumbledore said 7 was a powerful magical nuber
- there are probably loads more that i havnt thought up yet
January 2, 2006
sorry to hear you might be closing da forum by the way ^^ i can see why you have to though lol
January 2, 2006
*closing comments
January 2, 2006
I already knew that the mirrow showed what they desired. Im just saying that maybe what they desire will actually come true, because i dont really think Harry will be going to Hogwarts much in Book 7 but finding the Horcruxes. So then Ron would become captain and probably head boy too - he already became a prefect.
January 2, 2006
Please dont shut this chat thingy down ! please ?
also to #543 pudding .thats a good theory do u hav the book in another language ? cause if u checked for R.A.B
we would be shure it was regulus
January 3, 2006
494-Chris
I think that Aberforth is the bar tender at the hogshead because in the book it said the bar tender smeeld of goat. Dumbledore’s brother was thrown into jail because he hexed a goat. I also think Ms. Figg is using a polyjuice potion. You can check 448 for more of my ideas on this.
512-Vanessa
I agree with your ideas. Of course Wormtail would not help Harry voluntarily, unless it would save his life. He is a coward. Tell me what you think about my ideas on the bloody baron, #281 283
I don’t think the A. stands for and. they wouldn’t have put a period after it. It would have looked like this if it stood for and R. A B.
January 3, 2006
Bertiebott’s,
I agree with the A not being and. RAB is definitly initials for a name. and I belivie that It is regulus. Also….I do not repeat do not think that harry!, or the sorting hat are horcruxes. Dumbledore would have been able to sense such dark magic if either were considering harry and the hat were constatly around him. soo yeah. I am very curious to see uindeed what the horcruxes are…considering I havent really heard any good theories on what they might be.
January 3, 2006
yo wuddup all
1st of all. harry isnt one of the horrorcrux. and i have a feeling that one of the horrorcruxes will be found in malfoy’s house.
2nd of all. get over it drumbledore is dead. and yes he is going to return to hogwarts to the headmasters office in one of the portraits(to obvious because all headmasters and headmastresses return to hogwarts to their portraits) (but other theories do make sense to and all are possible). and yes he is going to help harry kill voldy. and for some reason i have a gut feeling the dd’s brother is going to play a great roll in the 7th book.
3rd of all. snape is a gud guy. and yes he is also going to help harry kill voldy and umm. voldermort is goin to kill darco malfoy for not following his orders and darco’s mom is goin to help harry get voldy back.
4th of all. RAB is Reglus Black and yes his uncles middle name does kinda make sense to.
5th of all. wus the deal with cats and harry’s mom lilly. can some one plz explain this whole thing to me add me on my msn playz_playa_zain@htmail…...
tyl then ciao it was fun reading all of your point of views.
January 3, 2006
This is just something iv noticed but in the 6th book when Dumbledore hexes Harry when Malfoy comes, why doesnt Malfoy see the spell? There should of been a beed of light coming out from Dumbledores wand.
Also people keep going on about Aberforth hexing a goat, which book was that in?
January 3, 2006
I also think that Snape is good. Dumbledore begging Snape to kill him makes sense. Also when he fights harry at the end of book 6 he doesnt kill harry when he has the chance and he tells him that all his spells will be blocked unless he learns to block his mind and keep his mouth shut. It just seems that if snape was evil then why would he waste his time giving harry advice?
January 4, 2006
3 things……
one) about the mirrior of erised if you read the mirrior proporly it says…”I Show not your face but your hearts desire” so this was just showing what harrys heart desires and being the first book it was just showing about ron and about his family and also in the end the mirrrior was used to hide the stone.
secondly)who ever thinks that Hermoine is harys sister is definately wrong!!!! i mean why would she put hermoine as his sister what would be the piont hermione has to muggle parents and they are dentist she wasnt adopted and jk rowling also said that she was almost gonna have a sister who wound up being a witch but she took that chararictor out11
thridly) i had a lot of good ideas from # 514-516 so pleeeeeeese comment me they make alot of sense!!1
xoxo,
Jessie
January 4, 2006
porge the goat thing is in the 4th book
January 4, 2006
R.A.B. is Regulus Black. We can be fairly certain about this, because, in Dutch, Regulus Black is called Regulus Zwarts. The initials in the Dutch book are ‘R.A.Z.’. Therefore, if the ‘A’ is ‘Alphard’ (or any other middle name), it would have to be Regulus Black.
January 4, 2006
ok so i’m new to harry potter, but here are my thoughts. probably way too cheesy and way too obvious, but here goes:
1. Dumbledore’s dead. This has been foreshadowed throughout the whole series. In the words of Sid Fleischman, “the hero has to solve the problem.” (not a direct quote, but close). As long as Dumbledore’s alive, he can save harry, and where’s the fun in that? JKR wants Harry to stand for himself and fight, something he has yet to do.
2. the love thing. malfoy will be good in the end, because he had the power voldemort and the death eaters don’t, he had love, he couldn’t kill Dumbledore. I think some of the death eaters have it too, almost all of them have a relative thats’ been mentioned and a scene with them where they show love, so I think that will be the deciding factor if they turn against Voldemort.
3. Snape. has to be good. If he’s bad-it’s way too obvious. Dumbledore said “please” to get Snape to kill him, and Snape knew he would have to do it, he said so when he took the vow. I think he will lead the Death Eater revolt, maybe undermining the whole thing out from under Snape.
4. RAP. I have thoughts on this, but i’m not sharing yet, because i’m still too excited, and when i get excited i get a little possessive…but it will all come out in the end. let’s just say an obvious little detail is being casually overlooked.
5. the last horcrux. it can’t be harry, because if he has to die, the series isn’t really for kids, and that’s what JKR (at least originally) intended. I think that’s a little too dark for her. I think teh last horcrux is Hogwarts itself, because it’s one thing Voldemort cared about more than anything, and what a climax if Harry had to destroy the one thing he loved best. Dumbledore might also have been a horcrux, and Snape might have destroyed him after figuring it out…wow that one just came to me…
anyways, i’m done. but u guys rock, and i hope my ideas make at least a little sense…
January 4, 2006
Hi. as a lot of people have been having problems with their first posting, Ill make this one all conclusions and Ill give my arguments following:
1) RAB is at least a member of the Black family, probably Regulus
2) Harry is a Horcrux
3) Something’s fishy about the way DD died.
January 4, 2006
Here are my thoughts, as well as a recap of RAB possibilites:
A. RAB = someone we have never met or really had no place to be able to predict.
-Thats possible, but not probable, and very boring. moving on…
B. RAB = Rabastan Lestrange, a possible death eater who went to Azkaban.
-Probably not true, because RAB was written R.A.B. on the note, which would seem to indicate initials and not a nickname.
C. RAB = Amelia Bones.
-Highly highly unlikely, b/c Bones name is Amelia Susan Bones. The initials dont match.
D. RAB = Amy Benson. The name of one of the orphans Riddle used to play with down in the cave.
-args FOR:
1) her name conceivably fits the initials.
2) JKR really likes pulling stuff like this out of her hoo-hah just to make us scratch our heads, and this would surely do it.
3) it is possible that she could have stole it, but ONL Y IF Riddle gave it to her to hide there BEFORE he ended up protecting it. It is possible that Benson could have taken the locket, and then realized that Tom Riddle was a really nasty guy, maybe even a magician, and set everything up because she was a good orphan.
-args against:
1) its too far-fetched, even for JKR.
2) more clues lead to a Black
3) her name probably didn’t change when the series got translated, as the initials did (see arguments for G.)
E. RAB = more than one person (R&B).
-Probably not true, because RAB is R.A.B. on the note.
F. Luna Lovegood’s Mother
-args. for:
1) in O of the P, Luna said her mother died “performing an experimentâ€.
2) Lovegood’s mother was a Ravenclaw, and the locket may be a relic of Ravenclaw.
3) Luna said her mother was a “remarkable witchâ€, and the death (we think) need to be significant to produce a horcrux.
-args. against:
1) the time line doesn’t work well, b/c Luna said her mom died when Luna was 9, which would mean that LV was already retarded and probably couldn’t make horcruxes.
2) RAB, though possible, doesn’t readily fit the initials.
3) the locket may be SLytherin’s
-There may be a good theory here though that Luna’s mom died trying to destroy the horcrux, though.
G. RAB = somebody Black.
-args for:
1) [Allegedly,] the last initial (the “B†of RAB) changes depending on the language the book is printed in, and that initial remains the first letter of the word Black. See note #324 (Swedish = RAS, Svaart; Dutch = RAZ, Zwart)
-args against:
1) the only argument against it is that its too obvious, but remember that a) this is, first and foremost, a CHILDRENS book, so the 10 year olds need to be able to figure out at least some of these things, and
2) This is one of so many mysteries that we know of that are coming in Year 7. JKR probably wants to throw us some kind of bone with this one. and
3) its really not that easy to figure out. More on that later.
January 4, 2006
Now, following the last post, it is really hard to argue with the B in RAB being Black. I COULD see JKR maybe playing a trick on us, though, and creating a new R.A. The only one we have now is Regulus, and (as was stated previously) we know that lots of Brit families give an uncle’s or a family name to the child as a middle name (Harry James, Tom Marvolo, etc). so it is a good assumption that Regulus Black can be R.A.B.
There is a good argument against Regulus that I forgot to address, and it is that Regulus was called a weak magician, and it seems like only a strong magician could do the trick. Regulus could have gotten the locket in two ways.
1) He could have taken and replaced the locket somehow before the locket was put in the cave and bewitched. Maybe LV trusted Regulus with it, to put it in the cave, and Regulus had a change of heart (maybe Regulus had a change of heart because he knew LV would kill him as soon as Regulus planted the locket)
OR
2) Maybe Regulus went in to get the locket after the cave was bewitched. The boat was only for one adult wizard, but an immature wizard or a non-wizard could have joined him. Kreacher would be perfect, because house-elves have very powerful magic, and because Kreacher would have been under Regulus’ power at the time. ALSO, any descriptions of Kreacher as especially malnourished or unhealthy could be because Kreacher had to drink the potion.
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So can we just all be friends now that all the RAB claims have been called up and addressed? It seems like if its not Regulus, then we will never know who it is.
January 5, 2006
the horcruxes
1. the diary
2. the ring
3. sliterins locket
4.hufflepuffs cup
5.something of ravenclaws
6. griffiondors sorting hat
7. the last one still lies with lv himself
with one from each house, the only natural choice is th ha tor the sword of griffiondor.
does this make sense to anyone else.
January 5, 2006
now i didnt read all the responses so i dont know if this has been stated previously but in regards to the theory that RAB is actually two people, it seems to me that if infact it was two different people that retrived the true Horcrux, that it would have read:
To the Dark Lord WE know WE will be dead long before you read this but WE want you to know that it was WE who discovered your secret. WE have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as WE can.
WE face death in the hope that when you meet your match you will be mortal once more.
R.aB.
i highly doubt two people would have writen a note to the Dark Lord only refering to one of them.
January 5, 2006
omg….can we like stop saying the same things again. Ive read that thing about the dutch R.A.B thing too many times. Copying what other people say is just gona make this forum close down.
January 5, 2006
no one has said this so it is not a repeat. in the 6th book when hepizbah Smith is showing tom riddle/ lord voldemort the necklace harry describes it as a “HEAVY locket” later in the sentance it was a shiney “gold” in the 5th book the locket at #12 grimmald place a locket was also described as a “HEAVY GOLD LOCKET!” JK Rowling described the locket with the same word, Heavy.(i think its call an adjective but im not sure lol!)
another person it could be is aRABelle Figgs.
in favor of:
1) it seem like she is taking the poly juice poison because it says that her house smells like cats and rotton cabbage and in the 2nd book it says that the polyjuice poison tasted like rotton cabbage, too.
2) it could be regulus in desguise as mrs figg because if regulus is RAB then RAB is like in side the name for Figgs but is also like inside mrs.Figgs
3) there is no wizard registered there because she said that she is a squib but at the hearing they said that they have no record of it but they have records for squibs because we for that argus filch was registered to. some more ideas are:
In the 3rd book at the end when harry was talking to dumbledore he said that petterw pettigrew owes his life to harry and when a wizard kill another wizard it creates a bond inbetween them and now pettrew pettigrew is forever in harrys debt unless he saves his life. and even though he is like evil or whatever we found snape was evil (Or not whatever!!!) he saved harrys life because james saved him but james was dead so he did the next best thing saved harry but what i dont get is he was the one who killed james pretty much because he heard the prophies and told voldemort that harry was the one.
one more thing is when snape was having a fight with dumbledore hagrid said that dumbledore was haveing a fight with snape not snape having a fight with dumbledore so in this whole series Dumbledore has never i repeat NEVER had a fight with anybody this had to be spmething ah-mazingly important. but like dumbledore said that he wasn’t scare of death because he said to a man that is old it is like goning to sleep after a long day and he was doing what was right not what was easy and though are like his to biggest sayings and what he did fit both.
GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS
January 5, 2006
more about my “Dumbledore was a horcrux” theory. everyone said he was a huge part of hogwarts (see everyone’s conversations after his death), also Voldemort never killed him, and I can’t remember him actually trying to kill him, except when he was defending harry in book 5, but even then did Voldemort ever actually attempt to kill Dumbledore? He wouldn’t, if Dumbledore was one of his horcruxes. He could have made him a horcrux when he went to have that meeting with him, and maybe at the funeral when the white light or shape or whatever left the casket, maybe it was a horcrux being destroyed…
Harry can’t be a horcrux, or at least not a horcrux created on purpose, because why would Voldemort have been trying to kill him?
January 5, 2006
What do you thing about Dumbledore’s brother(sorry I forgot his name)? Is he an important person in book 7?
January 6, 2006
On the topic of Horcruxes; what they are and where they are/will be found:
What we do know:
1. Diary (found: Hogwarts)
2. Ring (??)
3. The part within Voldemort himself (self explanatory)
What is most likely true:
4. The locket (originally found: cave; probably resides in: House of Black)
5. The cup/goblet (??)
Now here’s where everyone agrees that it gets sticky:
Dumbledore suggests that it is Nagini, LV’s snake pal. But I’m not so sure. It seems only reasonable that the last 2 should be something from Ravenclaw AND Gryffindor. Dumbledore also suggests that it isn’t Godric’s sword. AND on Rawlings website she states that it is NOT the sorting hat. To my knowledge, that is all that has been mentioned of the possessions of Godric. Which means, we will probably find out what it is in the next book.
So we have a couple questions here: What are these last 2 Horcruxes? and Where are they? We know that they are places that were significant to Voldemort. But what are some of the other places that were important to him? Based on the info that we have so far, I don’t think we are able to answer these questions.
My question to everyone is: has there EVER in all 6 books been a mention of something that belonged to Ravenclaw? As far as the Gryffindor item, I believe it will probably be found in Godric’s Hollow and that will be covered in Book 7.
January 6, 2006
‘the noble and most ancient house of black’
MOST, that means there is more than one house of black. Unless it means 2nd cousins and stuff, this means that there is another house. It could just mean the blood of the family. I don’t know its just a random idea that popped into my head all of the sudden. But it could mean Regulus is living in it. Sirius wouldn’t have to know about it either.
January 6, 2006
to amy about #571
if dumbledore was a horrorcrux y would LV assigned malfoy to kill dumbledore.
thats all im styl confused about the whole harry’s mothers eye thing and the whole missfig deal plz could some one explain that ish to me.
is funn reading all these new ideas sik i have never though of those things my self.
n e wayz ez tyl
January 6, 2006
another thing
where do yu guys get all this new info from?
is dudley a wizard to?
January 6, 2006
hey hey ummm someone probably already said this but i think that rab has gotta be reg. cuz reg was a previous death eater ad in one of the books harry mentioned that only death eaters called him the dark lord
January 6, 2006
i am begining to hate the fact that this is the last book of the series no matter how much information and mystery it contains…. if harry dies i will be so sad but it will be even more fun becasue it will spoil the fun of reading all the books over and over and over like i always do knowing harry will just die in the end. someone come up with an interesting theory explaining why harry WONT die please…
January 6, 2006
okay that was a horribly fromed passage…. i meant the books will just be sad now because if harry dies i will just know that in the end and i oul no longer be able to read the books with the same interest that harry is the greatest person in the world
January 6, 2006
zain, this stuff isn’t really new info. Most of it is from the books or interviews with JKR
January 7, 2006
573
Maybe someone is related to godric gryffindor. See 76 and stuff from up there. I remember they were having aBIG fuss over this godric thing. A lot of people think Luna Lovegood has Ravenclaw’s thing, because the book states that Luna had a bunch of her stuff taken but she always got it back. Many people think Lord Voldemort and his crew are going through her stuff in search of Ravencalws thing.
January 7, 2006
R.A.B. could have been made before someone got married. There initials would have changed when they got married. I doubt this, but its an idea.
Does anyone know the head of RavenClaw?
January 7, 2006
i think voldy might have accidentally made harry a horcrux without knowing that he did, so harry is a horcrux without knowing it. DD says voldy transfered some of his powers 2 harry, so yeah. Also RAB is regulus. Everything fits (especially RAZ/RAB). Snape has 2 b good. The only reason that gives me reason 2 doubt that snape is good is y would dumbledore sacrifice himself so snape could remain a double agent, wen dumbledore is a much more powerful wizard (hmmmmm). gimme thoughts!
January 7, 2006
To Jessie
I’m sorry to tell u this, but i really think that Mrs. Figgs is NOT Regulus Black. Because:
If Mrs. Figgs is Regulus, and, consequently, both of them are R.A.B., and if this ‘char’ works for Dumbledore, DD should know about the fake horcrux.
PS: sorry for my bad, rusty english ;P
January 7, 2006
Flitwick is the head of Ravenclaw
January 7, 2006
I’m going to close the comments on this because the same things are being said repeatedly. I’ll do a summary post later so that you can continue the conversation. For now you can check out the Harry Potter Category for the other Harry Potter posts on Binary Moon.
April 26, 2007
First comment, and just to add a little flavour, it is said that getting the locket was designed so one person alone could not survive. Makes you think, if reg was the guy, as i beleive he was, then who was assisting him??? dunno if this has been mentioned, but its summit to think about.
April 27, 2007
The locket that couldnt be opened and Regulus Black are exactly what i thought when i reread the books. I doubt that rowling would add unneccesary details to junk in the house unless it had some special significance.
and just a side thought….ive got a few galleons riding on it that Mr. Weasley has or might be connected to still having Sirius’ old flying motorbike…its the only thing i can think of.
May 1, 2007
I am 99.9% positive that Regulas Black is the R.A.B.,the point 1 is the fact that regulus worked for black so y would he try to kill him
May 4, 2007
In chamber of secrets harry and ron find out from malfoy that they have a secret chamber under their drawing room. ron later says that he is going to tell his dad. although this secret chamber is never mentioned again. can anyone help me on that.
May 13, 2007
Hi, I just finished reading Book-6 (again). I wanted to tell someone that R.A.B. might be Regulus Black. Well, thanks for giving this opportunity. I think you are right in saying RAB is Regulus _ Black. But, it is also clear from chapter 6, book-5, that Regulus was murdered (and not ran away). I also think that the locket at Order head quarters might be the Horcrux… because, Order head quarters is indeed the safest place. But, I have a doubt… a Horcrux, if not opened, might be very dangerous (Dumbledore almost lost his hand for touching one)… so how come it’s handle so carelessly?
May 17, 2007
hi guys i am new
I also thought that regulus is R.A.B but J.K. sad that it was good gus but he isnt R.A.B. and she also sad in hers intervius that there will be some new charetar in 7th book so that could be someone we didnt met in books.
May 25, 2007
Wat about the veil? u know the one sirius fell through when he was hit by the avada kadarva curse, he might have fallen in to another realm or to the past , present or future i say present because he might be hiding out again from the death eaters and protecting harry so voldemort could not lure him by using sirius again.
May 25, 2007
u know how crookshanks had a weird bond with sirius like wat cat has a extremelly tight bond with a dog ? crookshanks new how to freeze the womping willow. CATS CANT SPEAK ENGLISH OR INTERPRET IT!!! wat if crookshanks was an unregistered animagi by the name of regulus black?
i beleive this is unlike ly because the story line in the 3rd book revolved around sirius who was unregistered as well but just thought id put it out there!
May 25, 2007
Crookshanks is a Kneazle, not an Animagus, or a cat. i really hope there isn’t another unregistered Animagus as that would be the third time it’s happened (Sirius, and the reporter who’s name I’ve forgotten), and it would be a very lazy/ easy way out.
May 29, 2007
This is of the topic but if dementors can suck out your soul could it take voldemorts
May 29, 2007
Uhh. 1st- Why would someone put their initials on a letter saying that you stole something… o_o;
2nd- I think Snape is R.A.B. and in the 7th book he’ll be killed by the ‘Dark Lord’.
May 31, 2007
I, think that Harry will die in book 7, but surprisingly I think that after Harry’s Death, Hermione will giv Ron private lessons similar to the DA (OofP) and Ron will kill Voldemort.
As for R.A.B could it be anything to do with Borgin or Burkes (just a theory)
June 2, 2007
not sure if anyone mentioned this.no.3 you say that regulus is dead and in the note it says to the dark lord i know by the time you read this i will be DEAD.therefore it could be regulus.
June 3, 2007
Here are are my thoughts;;;
first of all i think snape is on the good side. when harry and dumbledore were in that cave harry asked if that potion would kill him. dumbldore said that it but weak until voldy could question them (find out what they know about his horcurxe and how they got it– voldemort may be albe to find and question dumbldore because he was weak)..so maybe dumbldore wanted snape to kill him before voldemort found anything out. maybe dumbldore wanted snape to remain a spy, so instead of finishing himself off, he wanted snape to do it. this way it looks like to voldy that snapes on his side..this coulld be why dumbledore was asking for snape right before they got back into the castle. Do you follow??
June 3, 2007
Hi all… How does this sound for an ending…
Voldemort marked Harry in his childhood and in the process transferred his powers to Harry. We don’t know for sure if Harry had any magical powers until then.
So, it is possible, when Voldemort is killed in Book-7, Harry might loose all his magical powers.
This way, J.K. Rowling can stop the Harry Potter series with out actually killing Harry and also avoid the risk of somebody else continuing this series.
This is just a theory.
June 4, 2007
just a while ago i have reread all 6 books in a couple of days so if i dont make sense forgive me i am wary b/c lack of sleep
Voldemort in Book 4 says of his death eaters. “There are 6 missing death eaters, 3 are dead, one too cowardly to return - he will pay, one who has left me - he will be killed one who remains my faithful servant - he will re-enter my service.”
after the 4th book came out many yrs ago i thought the 1st had to be karkaroff then snap finally crouch who was at the school. then thinking now i thought recall crouch having a dark mark on his arm so i dont belive he would be considered a death eater. so now i think regulus must register in there somewhere.
but maybe the 1st is snape b/c when snape face harry in the 6th book he gets all touchy about being call a coward?
i came on here to try and strength the theory that regulus is RAB but now im even more confused
that Rowling is a genius
June 4, 2007
i just read number #574
i dont think dumbledore was a horx
but i cant remember wat number said maybe it is in harry now from the potion in book 4 vold can touch harry so maybe it did go in harry and he didnt put the 6th horx in nagini hes just possessing her. so in book 7 maybe they both die. its either ron or harry in book for at the christmas dinner the 13 people thing 1st one to stand up dies ron and harry didnt know who. i dont think ron will die.
***so to save the world harry will kill vold then maybe he gets a blow that kills him too (*the last horx)
June 4, 2007
I am almost convinced that harry is a horcurx. If Voldemort felt that harry could be the one to defeat him, what better thing could he do then make harry a horcurx? If this is true, harry cannot kill Voldemort without killing himself. It is true also that Voldemort would have to destroy one of his own souls, but he thinks he has others still (he doesn’t know they are destroyed). Maybe Voldemort didn’t want to kill harry when he was one year old, because harry might have grow up and joined Voldemort, so he made a horcurx instead. This would explain why:::: 1) harry can feel Voldemort’s feelings and see some Thoughts of his;;; 2) why he was Nagini (the snake) when it attacked Aurther;;; 3) why harry has his scar (someone told harry one that the killing curse shouldn’t leave a scar, it should just kill)
June 8, 2007
i just saw on mugglenet the albus dumbledore bio it say aberforth is the bartender at hog’s head so he couldnt help harry or be ms figg
June 8, 2007
Hows this for a theory:
When Voldermort give Wormtail his new hand in GOF, it was metallic. When you take Polyjuice Potion, it is only to be used on humans. (Still with me?). In HBP, in Spinners End chapter, we learn Wormtail is holed up with Snape. Back at the school, Dumbledore has his blackened hand which we learn has been blackened because of the Ring horcrux. What if, the polyjuice potion made by Slughorn was taken by Wormtail and it made his metallic hand appear blackened. This could be Wormtails way of repaying Harry for not allowing him to be killed in POA.
Just a thought to throw in the mixer so I could stir up more theories about Dumbledore not being dead etc etc.
June 10, 2007
It’s Burke.
June 11, 2007
Rite people yeh the whole RAB/Regulus thing… seems obvious enough though could be just what JKR wants and if she’s said in an interview that it isnt as i read somewhere aboove then it just makes it more interestin. i aslo had the Kreacher revelation myself though the only thing i had trouble with was deciding what side Snape is on.
Im thinking he’s DD’s man though if it looks like a win for the dark side he wont have any moral issues with jumpin ship. However we are forgetting that if Snape didnt help Draco he was breaking his vow to Narcissa, and we know that DD would sacrifice himself for any one of his pupils including young Malfoy.
Has anyone noticed the similarities between Draco and Harry i mean they’ve both lost fathers one way or another to Voldy, both their mothers risked/gave their lives for them and both have been put forward as a sort of young saviour for their side… Harry has been prepared and trained to fight LV (occlumency/ DADA/ Triwizard etc.) whereas Draco was marked a DE at only 16 has been trained in occlumency by aunty Bellatrix and has always just like Harry been aware of things going on in the school that other students arent.
He is definitly a character to watch out for and not necessarily as a ‘bad guy’
June 12, 2007
Harry is the Seventh Horcrux.
Voldemort could have been trying to make him one the night he killed harry’s Parents and after seperating the soul seven times is how Voldememort became weak this is how Harry can speak Parsle tonge and why Voldemort can posess Harry and see through his mind and also this is why he got the scar .
This would be quiet clever as Voldemorts supposed nemesis would not be able to kill Voldemort it seems the thing that he would do also if my theory is correct who will deliver the final blow if any.
This may contradict Voldemort using Harry’s death to split his soul but that is not very vital as he could still split his soul by using someone other than Harry.
Dumbledore says that you can use a person but it is not wise because of free will.
Also there is no evidence that Voldemort ever tried to kill Harry because as far as we now there were no witnesses apart from Harry and Voldemort as the parents are dead; and Harry states that he remembers flashes of green light but the curses that he sees didn’t have to be aimed at him.
Voldemort tries to kill Harry multiple times throughout the series after their first encounter but it is only after Harry begins to be a nuisence in the Philosophers Stone when Harry refuses to surrender it that he orders Harry’s death.
Voldermort seems hesitent when he meets Harry to murder him there and then which is because Harry is a Horcrux and he is unaware of the state of the remaining six.
Dumbledores views on the matter are only guesses (i think) and are not solid facts as far as i now.
PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU CAN PROVE MY THEORY WRONG!
June 12, 2007
The Burge - since it’s your theory the onus is on you to prove your theory correct, not on others to prove it wrong. Of course nobody can prove anything (including you) because of the fact that only a small handful of people know what is going to happen.
The theory itself is interesting, I don’t know whether I believe it or not.
June 14, 2007
We are Chinese HP fans. We agree ’bout your opinion about the real identify of R.A.B.
We also have another question, that is how Sirius Black fell into that door? Will R.A.B be him?
If you have more ideas, please send an email to us:
coralfish_u@sina.com
Thanks a lot.
June 14, 2007
Hey, thats a really good guess, with sirius coming out as R.A.B… hmmm
now that i ponder about it for a few seconds,
anyways what if its DD’s Brother that did it?
or has anyone thought of the idea that DD’s bro is…. dumbledore sometimes with the memorys ( remember when sometimes people take “their” memories out of their heads, well dumbledore usually did until one time even though it was his memory he took it out of a bottle…) So ui’m thinking, hmm maybe DD’s bro is drinking Polyjuice potion, and then remember when DD suddenly revives when he see’s the dark mark over the school? but he was sooooo weak before, i’m wondering… just wondering whats happening…. such a nice weave JK’s rolled
June 15, 2007
oh my christ. americans really shouldn’t be allowed to share their thoughts on books. it makes for truly painful reading.
“…and then remember when DD suddenly revives when he see’s the dark mark over the school? but he was sooooo weak before, i’m wondering… just wondering whats happening…. such a nice weave JK’s rolled”
Like, OH MY GOD! i sooooooooooo totally can’t wait for the new book!
June 15, 2007
Disagreement is fine but please don’t start being offensive to people, especially unwarranted blanket generalisations of an entire nation.
June 15, 2007
to “oh my christ”
i don’t really care, and btw I AM NOT american! because well i have my opinion on those uhhh, people….
and BUSH!!
and see, i’m a really big HP fan and do you have any clue whats running around in my mind? do you know how many possibilities there is, lots… and well me being me, i’m not so good at expressing, but heck why not try, i know i may suck at it but i like HP and thats what matters the most.
And what does it matter, if i like expressing Sooooooooo,
curva, musis sie naluczyc ze ludzie majom rozne methody do movienia (european language)
June 15, 2007
scratch that last post please.
Just to tell you, i’m not american…
i like using the word like, and “soooo”
soooooo what…
My ideas may make little sense but, i’m true Harry Potter fan. I think R.A.B, is either DD’s Brother, or is Regulus Black.
June 19, 2007
Or Roberta Augustus Bird
June 20, 2007
Well it’s a very nice theori… but!
what concerns Regulus_Black to be RAB, hmm it seems very unlogical if it where him because 1: he’s dead 2: he was a weak wizard 3: he was a death eater..
im allmost sertant that it hasnt only been one person alone, who beated all voldemorts exstreamly deathly arrangements. I think its more likely that it has been two or more tegether doing it, (i know it woldnt fit with the letter from the locket, written in 1st, person)
But think about it, Dumbledore (the greatest wizard of all time, the only one voldemort have ever been afraid of) would not even have been able to steal voldemorts horcrux if it hadnt been for harry,,,
thats why i find it so doubtful that Regulus should be the one, that all by himself beated all of voldemorts ekstreamly dangerously arrangements, plus stole the horxcrux and even planted a fake one with a letter in it for him.
thats not all, i dont think JR would be so indiscreet with one of the books deffinatly big misteries.. i mean it havent been so hard to figure that it was Regulus, and its the first thing we throw ourself into because it seems so obvious. i think JR are trying to leet us astray.
I could very well be wrong about this.. but i just wanted to say that urs might be wrong aswell:)
June 20, 2007
To that annoying American,
I am also American and I am deeply offended by your butchering of the English language and terrible representing of our country.
I jest.
But seriously, RAB is Regulus, Snape is still a double agent, Dumbledore’s dead and I doubt he will physically return.
Maybe a Ghost similar to the Priori Incantentem but he’s dead.
June 20, 2007
Right, having spent the day on and off reading your posts. My head hurts from the repatition (and bloody text speak) but yes
I’m thinking R.A.B is Rugulus, yes he may have been a weak wizard but if he did it with Kreacher the it’s quite possible.
DD IS dead, he may return somehow in the next one but it won’t be in a physical form.
Snape, i’m not sure. He seems to be sitting on the fence(watch out for splinters)
I see the sense in Harry being a horcrux but not sure whether I am going with this theory or not yet. Harry being able to sense his moods and see his thoughs and doings I think is purely due to the connection made between them when the avada kedavra went wrong.
I am going with Nagini being one, It has been said that even for a parseltongue he has extrodinary control over her. The fact that he also seem to posess her might be something to do with it asewll
June 21, 2007
well, i think ur right about the nagini beeing a horcrux thing. but i think the reason of why voldemort have so much control over her and been so close to her, has something to do with his relationship with salazar..
But i cant see how u imagine the stealing of the locket possible even if he had Kreacher with him..?
let Kreacher drink it all ? or?
June 21, 2007
the guess that nagini is a horcrux supports my theory of harry being a horcurx becuase that could be why harry saw through the eyes of nagini when it attacted aurther weasley.. if both harry and nagini are horcurxes this would make perfect sense.
June 22, 2007
Harry couldnt be a horcrux.. because horcruxes are made by the most evil spell, and the objects are evil. Harry would sence the evil inside him, and we would have known by now if he where im pretty sure.
And second, it wouldnt make any sence, when Dumbledore tells harry that the powers that the Dark Lord know not, is love. and love sure aint evil, so i cant see any connection there
June 22, 2007
I dont think that Horcrux objects neccisarily have to be evil. I think the Hufflepuff cup is a Horcrux and that wasn’t really evil. Was it? Harry’s connection with Nagini and Voldemort would make a lot more sense though if Harry was in fact a Horcrux.
And about Dumby’s brother possibly replacing DD, I think it’s interesting but a little to good to be true, i think.
I also think that Regulus Black is RAB because he may have had some sort of assistant such as Kreacher, or maybe some other ex-death eater.
Just a thought.
June 22, 2007
I was reading this webpage on snapes possible death. I agree with it, when it says that the potions book will play a role in his demise and harry’s quest, but I don’t think harry will kill snape. I believe Snape really is good and he will save harry in the end… maybe even if it means death.
June 22, 2007
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R....
If you go to about the middle of the page it is talking about regalus (spelling) being the R.A.B. And it has a very good arguement. Sorry if this has been posted. It says that in the hp books published and translated in other languages, the B (standing for Black if you accept our theory) has been transladed to the letter for the respective color of black in that language. The two examples on the website are that in the Dutch book, the initials are R.A.Z, and the translation for the color black is ‘zvort’, and in the Norwegian book the the initials are R.A.S. And the translation for black is svart
June 23, 2007
i have heard that before.. it fits in most languages, but not all.. in some languages its spelled different from the contraction R.A.B, so u shouldnt count too much on it
June 23, 2007
qvist - do you have any proof of that? I’d be interested to read it if you have.
June 23, 2007
qvist: My question is, in the books/languages that are exceptions do they translate the “black” family name? Because as it says on that website in languages such as spanish, the name “Black” stays the same (it’s not translated to negro), and so therefore does the initials
June 23, 2007
cant remember where i read it, though im sure it said that in 1 or 2 languages, still cant remember wich, but ill try to find it again,, (maybe it was wikipedia too.)
and brandon: dont know, didnt check up on the books in the spicific language,. but u make a point, it would be interresting to investigate further!
June 23, 2007
On the same page posted above, it says that french, and swedish it aint translated to the respective colour of the language. but it remains RAB.. hmm i find that a little strange.
June 24, 2007
just a quick question does anyone else think like me that DDS brother runs the hogs head, bcos in one of the bookd i think moody says thats DDs bro he always smeeled like sheep or sumthing like that and in one of the books it says that when they walked into the hogs head it smelt like sheep.
DD always likes to go in there? to see his brother? plus in the 6th book it he knows that death eaters are staying in the hogs head. Having his brother around might have been useful?? I agree with DD being dead althoug i think sirus might play a part in the final book. neville is going to have revenge for his parents i think snape is going to die saving Harry, ron or hermoine id going to die,
what i dont understand is how harry is going to defeat/kill V, voldermort being alot wiser than harry unless it is down to love?? i like the theory on the eyes!!
June 24, 2007
Just to let you know I have posted some more thoughts on the new book and a round up of some of the comments over here. Maybe we could carry on the conversation there? Of course you’re welcome to talk here if you want
June 24, 2007
it could very well be DD’s brother. it wouldnt surprise me, but what would his part be in the book? has he got some kind of important message to pass on? to harry maybe? or help him ? ‘
interresting though:)
June 24, 2007
I agree that DD’s brother could very well be the Hog’s Head owner. But I’ve also heard people guess that DD’s brother is Ms. Figg due to her smell of cabbages, and the fact that polyjuice potion smells like cabbages.
I was just wondering if anyone had an idea who else Mrs. Figg could possibly be.
Any idea’s?
June 24, 2007
Whoever this R.A.B guy is, he writes in his note that he expects to be dead even before Voldemort finds out about lost horocrux(”…I know I will be dead long before you read this but …”). Why did he feel so? Whom was he expecting to be killed by if not Voldemort?And why has everyone assumed that Voldemort killed or had RAB killed.Sirius said so but wasn’t sure why. Surely Voldemort will go after R.A.B only after he realised that his Horocrux had been stolen and he had actually come to the cave and checked the sink, and in that case RAB would die only after Voldemort had read the note.So What exactly happened? Can any one tell me?
June 25, 2007
i think we all want to know:) guess only JR knows for sure, and untill the book is out we can only guess.
But maybe he thought that if voldemort had made a horcrux he would propably not die soon, and wouldnt need to check up on it, so he would be dead before he did so..
well just a lame thought, but just to get something started:)
June 25, 2007
all i know is that i have recently reread the books and i hav come to the conclusion that harry does die
because of firenze in the first book when he tells of mars and about how he think sth stars have been read wrong and he hopes that is the case for harrys sake
upon first reading you thnink this has to do with that current year but centors know things far further in advance and the scene continues on to say how the centars got angry a firenze for moving harry from voldemort.. because something was supposed to happen
June 26, 2007
listen people….
dumbledores dead, the theory of him pleading with snape to infact finish him as oppose to saving him is interesting and quite believable, the most likely suggestion is that he will have left harry a lot of information in the pensieve i think the portrait wont be of much use and dumbledore was far too open minded to come back as a ghost unfinished business or not. Now Regulus seems the most likely person to have nicked the horcrux, as for him having an accomplice i really dont think it likely unless it was perhaps a house elf, remeber dumbledore said the boat judges how many people are in it by how much magical power it detects, and as harry was not even qualified and indeed young he was an exception. i think we should all accept dd’s death although i think we can all agree we haven’t quite seen the last of great auld man, he will have a role of most importance to play in the next book. your thoughts?
June 26, 2007
i would also like to add that i find the theory that harry is a horcrux most interesting as it would make sense when, that is to say if, he does indeed die in book 7 however i find it highly unlikely that voldemort ever planned to make him one at the time when he went after him as a baby. he went to destroy the human that would have powers that dark lord knows not, to “destroy his equal” but anything can happen i just think we should all not try too hard to boggle our minds and await the last adventure as it is… also just a tip, closer to the release date it would be wise to avoid the internet and news papers as spoilers, for me anyway, would F***ing P**s me right off.
cheers.
June 26, 2007
I cant wait until this last book is out, because my head is absloutely battered with all these interesting theories. I too, have starting rereading the books and in the very first one, when Dumbledore says he trusts Hagrid with his life, it just leads onto more theories about Dumbledore not being dead.
I dont think Harry will die, because Prof. Trewlaney predicts he will live a long life and become Minister for Magic. I know she was only ranting because of Umbridge, but you know JK Rowling throws the tiniest of things in her books which, in hindsight, become absolutely huge later on.
June 27, 2007
OK. Sadly I have been collecting my theories for years now, and I am VERY UPSET about the last book coming out as it means that this is the end of all my speculation and calculations. HOWEVER, as the new book is coming out very soon, I figure i must get my theories written down somewhere before the book is printed and read world-wide. So I apologize in advance if any of these theories have been discussed to death, but here goes, and by the way… this was a lot of work!!! And another by the way…I have never visited any theory sites before, so while many of my ideas might be way late to the scene, none are stolen from other people!!
R.A.B. = REGULUS ALPHARD BLACK.
This is, I think, one of the most obvious and most common theories surrounding the mysterious initials. Me and my buddy have come up with some other ridiculous theories, but none have the supporting details that Regulus has. The Black brothers had an uncle named Alphard, mentioned in ch.6, p.111, of the hardcover edition of book 5. As for the other supporting details, you all probably know this.
“To the Dark Lord. I know I will be dead long before you read this but I want you to know that it was I who discovered your secret. I have stolen the real Horcrux and intend to destroy it as soon as I can.
I face death in the hope that when you meet your match you will be mortal once more.
R.A.B.”
Thorough out the series, we have only ever heard Death Eaters refer to Voldemort as the Dark Lord, rather than “he-who-must-not-be-named,” or “you-know-who.” We know Regulus was a Death Eater but was murdered around the time of Voldemort’s downfall. Also, notice that at the end of book 6, Hermione agrees with us when she speculates that it sounded as though R.A.B. knew Voldemort.
I do not believe there is any relation to Stubby Boardman, “lead singer of popular singing group The Hobgoblins”, with Rowling you never know. She did turn a dead man into a rat after all… I suppose turning a dead man into a retired rockstar isn’t too far of a stones through off the treaded path.
Finally, and I think, most convincingly, Regulus Black, though introduced in book 5, is mentioned 3 times at the very beginning of book 6, first on p.50, as Dumbledore is explaining the inheritance of #12 Grimmuald Place, then again on p.70, as Slughorn discusses old Slug Club members, and shortly after but I can’t remember when. I normally listen to the audio books, as it’s much easier to pick up theory that way. However I do remember feeling suspicious about the number of times Regulus was mentioned at the beginning of book 6 the very first time I read it, and once I made the R.A.B. connection, it made me sure that theory was right. But again, you never know.
THE LOCKET
There is also speculation that ties R.A.B. to Slytherin’s Locket in another way. This is, of course, during the cleaning of #12 Grimmauld Place, they unearth a heavy golden locket that none can open. This, being Regulus’s old dwelling, would be a perfect place to hide the Locket until he could find a means to destroy it, as the house is unplottable. However, if RAB is Stubby Boardman, and alive, then he would have destroyed it long ago. If he is not, and died before he could destroy it, it is likely that he would have hid it in his mothers house. We also see, on p.207, and p.437 of book 6, that Rowling describes Slytherin’s locket as a “heavy gold locket.†To me this seems the likely chain of events. I predict that the locket becomes Harry’s final Horcrux, and cannot find it for a long time, without realizing it is under his very nose in his own house.
THE OTHER HORCURXS
“the locket…the cup…the snake…something of Gryffindor’s or Ravenclaw’s†These are the remaining Horcruxes in Harry’s mind. We also know that the Diary and the Ring were both destroyed. The seventh part of Voldemort’s soul, of course, resides within the Dark Lord himself. As for their locations, the only one I have any guess scientific guesses about is the locket, and it being hidden in #12 Grimmuald Place.
However there is a quote from Dumbledore that concerns me. On p.505 of book 6.
“I am confident, however, that the only known relic of Gryffindor remains safe.†Dumbledore pointed his blackened fingers to the wall behind him, where a ruby-encrusted sword reposed within a glass case.
What if Dumbledore was wrong about that. What if he simply forgot about another relic of Gryffindor, that Tom Riddle could have used during his brief return to the castle. “Twas Gryffindor who found the way, he swept me off his head….†Sound familiar? It should. I can’t remember which book it is in, must be book 4, but the Sorting-hat was Griffindor’s. Of course, that’s just a little aside, as aside from Dumbledore’s inaccurate statement, I have no other evidence to support that theory. As for the cup, I have a feeling it’s in the Trophy Room, but again, no hard evidence.
DUMBLEDORE: DEAD or ALIVE
Now I don’t wanna be cheesy and say that Dumbledore is alive…they faked it. I do not think they faked it. I believe Dumbledore really was killed. Notice I say killed, not murdered, but more of that when I get to Snape.
There’s a lot to say on Dumbledore, but regarding his death or lack their of, I wonder what you will say when I confess that for a long time I have been curious about Dumbledore’s relation to phoenixes. Have you noticed, that everything connected to Dumbledore is related to Fawx or phoenixes. And what happened when a phoenixes when they die? Ah-ha! That’s right! They don’t die! They burst into flames and are reborn from the ashes. But wait a moment. I think I have another interesting quote. P.645 book 6.
“Then several people screamed. Bright, white flames had erupted around Dumbledore’s body and the table upon which it lay: Higher and higher they rose, obscuring the body. White smoke spiraled into the air and made strange shapes: Harry thought, for one heart-stopping moment, that he saw a phoenix fly joyfully into the blue, but the next second the fire had vanished.”
Well. I don’t think I can possible stress that point any harder than that. As for the question “Is he dead?†I don’t know. But I know how Rowling writes, and the phoenix connection will not disappear. It will be important in some way or another, weather it be a baby Dumbledore born in the ashes (Explaining why he has lived so long) or some other manifestation of the old headmaster. Though I believe him dead, I do not believe him gone. We will see some part of Dumbledore again in this last book…I think.
ABERFORTH DUMBLEDORE:
I was actually really proud of this one…once, in a happier time… before Harry Potter Theory Sites… He is first mentioned in book 4, when Albus Dumbledore tell Harry about his brother, who was prosecuted for using “inappropriate charms on a goat.†However this is not the only time he is brought up. In the beginning of book 5 the real Alastor Moody shows Harry Potter a picture of the Original Order of the Phoenix. (Haha, notice, phoenixes again.) He says that, that was the only time he had ever met Aberforth, hinting to me that Aberforths role in the Order was too secrete for any of it’s members but a few to know.
However about a month later, Harry goes into the Hogs Head, and feels that he recognizes the barman, but he can’t place it. ROWLING DOES NOT DO STUFF LIKE THIS WITHOUT A PURPOSE! Remember, Harry saw a picture of Aberforth recently, but could not place the face. Still don’t believe me, how bout this hint. Dumbledore often frequents the Hogs head when in need of a more quiet atmosphere, and that was where he was 15 years ago when, guess who, the barman captured Snape listening at the door.
Wait, theres more. When Voldemort returns to ask Dumbledore for a teaching job at Hogwarts, Dumbledore has accurate knowledge of the Death Eaters he has brought with him, and who are staying at the Hogs Head.
“You are omniscient as ever, Dumbledore.†Voldemort replies.
“Merely friendly with the local barman.†Dumbledore replies.
Bear in mind, that the “barman from the Hogs Head†attends Dumbledore’s funeral as well. I guess I have hammered that one to death too, but there is one other thing I want to point out, and that is that in book 5, Sirius tells Harry that Mundungus Fletcher was banned from the Hogs head, and, “that barman’s got a good memory.†Well, if that is the case, I find it rather odd that about a year later, in book 6, Harry Stumbles across Mundungus in possession of several Grimmuald Place items, while he is standing talking with, you guessed it, the barman from the Hogs Head. I find it odd that he would be chatting with the man who had banned him from his pub, especially as they are both in the Order…
I’m still working my head around how this all could fit together, but my wild fancies go something like: Abeforth Dumbledore and Mundungus are working together for Albus Dumbledore to find the Horcrux hidden in Grimmuald Place, but that’s just guess work. Just some odd things to point out.
Of course, while searching just now, to figure out if I was spelling Aberforth’s name correctly, I stumbled across a Wiki site on Aberforth, claiming that Rowling has already released the intel on him in fact being the barman at the Hogs Head. A part of me felt really good, as I figured all that out on my own… but another part of me feels like an idiot, for as I slaved away trying to look for all those hints, the rest of the world turned on the tv and watched as Rowling said “Yes. Aberforth is the barman at the Hogs head.â€
SNAPE
Ah Snape. Professor Snape, I should say. My favorite character. Severus Snape is by far the coolest guy in the history of cool guys. I would love to see him tear Brad Pit to pieces. I have TONS of theory on Snape, and again, I apologize for the length and possible repetitiveness of this post.
I think SNAPE IS GOOD. By good I in no way mean the opposite of evil, for the guy is a real arse as they say in the U.K. However, I believe him to be on Dumbledore’s side, if no one else’s. Now, where to begin.
THE UNBREAKABLE VOW: When Narsissa Malfoy visits Spinners end and begs Snape to aid Dracco in his task, Snape tells her he already knew of the plan. I had a slight feeling he was lying when he said this. But just a feeling, for although he is a master Occlumse, Narsissa might not be, and so it is possible that Voldemort could have found out what Snape said he knew by questioning Narsissa.
I do not know what Snape was to gain other than Narsissa and Belitrix’s trust if he did not know of the plan, but I still feel as though he did not know of the plan. Why? P.36 book 6.
(Snape’s hand twitched within hers, but he did not draw away)
AGAIN…ROWLING DOES NOT PUT IN DETAIL LIKE THAT, without it being very important, and as that twitch is never mentioned ever again, that single moment contains the most important detail in the book.
DUMBLEDORE”S MURDER? When Snape made the unbreakable vow, he unknowingly, I think, set in motion a track that would leave either himself or Dumbledore dead. There are several instances through book 6 that I feel point out that Dumbledore knew about this, but the instance that leaps out at me is the moment when Hagrid lets slip to the fab 3, that Dumbledore had argued with Snape.
P.405, book 6.
“Well- I jus’ heard Snape sayin’ Dumbledore took too much fer granted an’ maybe he – Snape – didn’ wan’ ter do it anymore-â€
Hagrid took this as Snape complaining about being overworked, But I believe that Snape was referring to the Unbreakable Vow. The wording did not seem connecting to a busy schedule (pronounced, sheh-jule) , but to a particular deed he had previously been intending to go through with. I believe he was telling Dumbledore he would rather break the vow and die, than go through with it, “it”, being killing Dumbledore to maintain his cover……..why else… would Dumbledore have allowed him to take the DADA class.
Dumbledore knew, that because Snape had made the Vow, either he, or Snape would be dead by the end of the year. For Snape to die would accomplish nothing but allow Dumbledore to live. Dumbledore allowed Snape to take the DADA class knowing that one of them, hopefully himself, would be dead by the end of the year. And in either case, Snape would be in no position to continue working at Hogwarts as either a murderer or a corps. Also, notice that Dumbledore has set Harry a task, explained the prophecy so that Harry understands what it means and why it was made, and given him all the tools and understanding he needs to face Voldemort. He knew he was going to die, and had to make sure Harry was prepared.
Lastly, his last words: “Severus. Please†I believe he was begging Snape to do it. It had to be done, and he knew it was the hardest thing Snape would ever have to do. To betray someone you love, even if for the greater good, can be painful, especially for Snape….
WHY HARRY BELIEVES DUMBLEDORE TRUSTS SNAPE: Though there is less hard evidence for this, through out the Harry Potter books, Harry continuously asks why Dumbledore trusts Snape. Now, throwing aside the fact that we know Snape has saved Dumbledors life after the destruction of the Ring, we also know, that Dumbledore has had complete trust in Snape for the past 15-16 years. He constantly says it.
Of course, Harry think he find out the reason Dumbledore trusts him. In book 6, Harry discovers that while Trelawney was having her interview for the post of divinations teacher, Snape overheard her. He was the one who ran off and gave the Dark Lord the first half of the Prophecy. Dumbledore tries to explain what happened to Harry.
“You have no idea the remorse Professor Snape felt when he realized how Lord Voldemort had interpreted the prophecy, Harry. I believe it to be the greatest regret of his life and the reason that he returned-â€
Harry replies:
“But he’s a very good Occlumense, isn’t he, sir?†said Harry, whose voice was shaking with the effort of keeping it steady. “And isn’t Voldemort convinced that Snape’s on his side, even now? Professor…how can you be sure Snape’s on our side?â€
Pay close attention to the following quote. It
appears directly after the above.
Dumbledore did not speak for a moment; he looked as though he was trying to make up his mind about something. At last he said, “I am sure. I trust Severus Snape completely.â€
And that is that. Harry, like an idiot, goes away with the impression that the reason Dumbledore trusted Snape was that what he had done was, the greatest regret of his life. Harry is stupid. What, did he really not notice that Dumbledore refrained from giving him the real reason? WE NEVER FIND OUT WHAT THE REAL REASON IS, and I believe that whatever the reason was, it is the absolute key to Snape’s truthful turnaround. But what was the reason? I think I know.
WHY SHOULD WE TRUST SNAPE? What is the book about. Good vs evil? No. It’s about the POWER OF LOVE. All Dumbledore talks about, is Harry’s ability to Love, and Voldemort’s inability to understand it; his hatred of it. So what, if anything, could convince Dumbledore? Love could.
We know Snape hated Sirius, and Lupin, and a whole bunch of other people. We know a lot of them have ended up dead. But Snape is a tough cracker to claim to know inside and out. Sure, as a teenager he may have said and done some foolish thing. We know he hated James Potter. “And he didn’t think much of my mother. “Mudblood,†he called her.” Says Harry in book 6. But we already know Harry is an idiot. (sometimes, we still love him though)
So Snape hated James. And insulted Lily. But wait.. Lily Evans…now…did he really hate her? It’s such a beautiful name. How could anyone hate someone named Lily Evans. How could anyone not love her. In fact… what if Snape had loved her.…? The remorse of betraying a loved one to their death would indeed have been the greatest regret of his life, and as Dumbledore wishes to spread love in the world, that would be the key to Dumbledore trust of Severus Snape.
Snape betrayed the woman he had fallen madly in love with…Harry’s Mother Lily Evans. And that, more than anything else, is why he hates Harry. Because Harry looks like James, and because Harry is the product of Lily’s love of a man he hated. That is what Dumbledore could not bring himself to tell Harry, that is why Snape did not want to go through with the Vow, that is why Dumbledore had to plead with him, to beg him to do it, to betray someone he loved, again. That is why Snape goes mad when Harry calls him a coward shortly after. He has just don’t the bravest thing he could ever do in his life, betray someone he loved, to their death, but for the right reasons this time. That is my all encompassing theory. It all revolves around Snape, and his love for Lily, and for Albus Dumbledore.
If anyone has any feedback on my theories, or wants to build on them, or argue them, please do so, and soon!! We only have about 24 days left before all our work becomes pointless!!!
June 27, 2007
I GOT THIS OF WIKIPEDIA…
In several foreign-language versions of the series, the surname Black has been translated into the respective language to correspond to the colour “black”. In those cases, the ‘B’ in R.A.B. has been changed accordingly. For example, the Dutch edition uses the initials R.A.Z. in the locket note, and the Black family name is Zwarts[6], corresponding to “zwart”. In the Norwegian edition, the note has R.A.S. (corresponding to the Svaart family or”svart”)[7], and the Finnish edition has the letters R.A.M., (corresponding to the Musta family, or “musta”)[8]. In other editions where the Black family name is not translated to the local language, the initials remain “R.A.B.”. For example, the Swedish, Spanish, and French translations keep the family name “Black”, rather than translating it to the respective Swedish, Spanish, or French words for “black” (”svart”, “negro”, and “noir” respectively), and the initials remain as “R.A.B.”
June 27, 2007
#641. Dirge, If barman is indeed Aberforth, then has he been also in trail of horcruxes?And/Then did he really understand what he was getting from Mundungus that day in hogsmede when harry bumped into them? If he really got a horcrux in form of a locket, wouldn’t he have told Dumbledore about it and hence harry would have known too. Ofcourse there is a possibility that Aberforth didn’t realise its significance(I don’t think so). Or that he Mundungus didn’t give any locket that day, and that would mean that the locket is still with either Mundungus or at Sirius’s house. Please add on.
June 27, 2007
or, not to forget, somewhere kreacher could have found for it.. i think its quite possible that if the locket in Grimmauld place #12 is indeed slitheryns horcrux, kreacher may have taken it, and hidden it somewhere, not necessarily in #12.. just a little add to where the locket might be to be found:)
June 28, 2007
Hi everybody,
I am quite pleased to see the update since I last left a message in May (no. 600 above).
Firstly, I would like to thank Dirge (no.641) for a very comprehensive message. I enjoyed reading the though process that has gone in, rather than the conclusions.
Secondly, I would like to bring to your attention that Ms. J.K. Rowling herself hints that R.A.B. is not Regulus Black in her interview with Emerson of MuggleNet and Melissa of The Leaky Cauldron. [Source:http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-bjtexan01.shtml]
Finally, I also would like to bring to your attention what Dumbledore said to Harry about Horcrux (book 6, Horcrux chapter)… that he as well as Voldemort knew of someone who has split his soul into two.
I think, who ever this person is, will surface in this last book and will also play a major role. Has anyone felt the same?
Thanks,
Srihari
India
June 28, 2007
In the norwegian translation, RAB is RAS.
Regulus Black is called Regulus Svart.
In the dutch translation, RAB is RAZ.
Regulus Black is called Regulus Zwarts.
As good a sign as any that RAB is Regulus.
June 28, 2007
stian.. we discussed the translations before and if JR says its not regulus, i dont think it is,.. cuz i dont think she would lÃe. But that doesnt mean it couldnt be a black! actuatly im pretty convinced that it is a black. though not regulus, but andromera is another idea.?
June 29, 2007
R.A.B regulus black, plain simple,
yd it matter if anyone is related 2 gryfindor it aint gonna help people and 4 harry being a horcrux it is impossible unless intended and if intended then voldermort wud be stupid 2 kill himself. dumbledore cant cum back if hes ded. hes like anuther normal person, he cud cum back if he was like voldermort who split his soul but luks nuthin like a half ded.
June 30, 2007
stefania #642
i stopped reading after about comment 100 and skipped down so im not sure if this has been mentioned yet.
its not a very slid theory, but i thibk that Amelia Bones, the whitch reported murdered in the begining of half blood prince is RAB….just a thought
but stafnia’s comment on #642 is most convincing
June 30, 2007
12 Grimauld place would NOT have been left to Regulus if he was alive. Sirius will left the house to harry and that would presumably void that fact.
June 30, 2007
In the book, a family tree hangs in Grimmauld Place, Sirius Black’s family home. But J.K. Rowling listed only four of the names on it. When the time came to build the set, producer David Heyman called her and asked if she had any suggestions on filling out the rest of the tree. “Fifteen minutes later, she sent me a complete family tree with seventy five names,” Heyman says. Look closely, Potterheads: That’s 71 new potential clues to the Black family history. — Jacob Sager Weinstein
This was taken from the slideshow regarding the next hp movie at this url:http://movies.aol.com/movie-photo-bts/harry-potter-order-of-the-phoenix-set-visit
more specifically it is slide 16
I vaguely remember seeing something on this before, so sorry if this is a repeat
I’m sure we’ll have a lot of moviegoers on there feet when they see this scene coming along.
July 3, 2007
I think it could be regulus, but do not think he is alive, for in an interview Rowling said “Well, he’s dead, so he’s pretty quiet these days”, so just before regulus knew he was going to be killed by voldemort so he took the horcrux “in the face of death”. Just a thought…
July 3, 2007
rab = professor binns?
July 4, 2007
rab = Bloody Baron
July 4, 2007
I believe that R.A.B is not Regulus because that is too obvious. Didn’t Sirius say that Regulus was week and he quit being a death eater. Also, Regulus isn’t very important either, according to Sirius, because he was murdered on Voldemort’s orders and the Dark Lord only murders those of great power.
The person who stole the Horcrux must have been very close to him. It has to be a death eater or an Order Of Phoenix member. However, it could also have been the two kids that Riddle terrorised on the field trip in that cave. It would, after all have to be someone who knew Voldemort as a young child, so my money is on those kids.
It could also have been Bagman’s father because Bagman says in the fourth book that Augustus Rookwood(a death eater) was an old mate of his dad’s. What if his dad was a bit more than mate of Rookwood’s and an actual Deth Eater himself?
However, it could still be Regulus because Rowling did say that the mirror Sirius gave Harry is of importance in the next book. Harry could fix the mirror and may possibly be able to communicate with Rgulus! This is providing that Regulus had the mirror when he died.
Regulus’ initials also match, Regulus Arcturus Black.
Please let me know if you thought my theory was any good.
July 4, 2007
pretty much the same as nr 617:) exept from the bagman thing.. my opinion on the children thing, is that it is besides the bottle of possebilities. well i mean it just has to be an witch or a wizard, there’s no way a muggler could have stolen the horcrux, i simply cant see how and i dont believe it.
but anyway its a theory
July 5, 2007
Kreacher could not have accompanied Regulus because he’s a house elf, so when Regulus would have asked him to ‘kill me’, he would have no choice but to kill him.
July 5, 2007
The person that Srihari is talking about could be Snape. He did kill Dumbledore, after all.
July 5, 2007
@657:
well regulus propably didnt drink the potion himself;P
(if rab is regulus though).. he would ofc let kreacher drink it, and then take the falls horcrux and place it instead of the real one.. and the boat wouldnt sence Kreacher, so the theory is quite possible.
July 6, 2007
Srihari: This person could also be Grindelwald. The wizard Dumbledore defeated in 1945.
July 6, 2007
Hi osama,
Good memory! Yeh, the chocolate frog card did say that… “Prof. Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945, for…”
Surprisingly, this dark wizard’s name (mentioned in Book-1, Chap-6) was never mentioned again.
Yeh… Grindelwald could most probably be this person, whom Dumbledore refers to as someone who has split his soul into two, and whom even Voldemort also knew. Making Horcrux is indeed a dark art.
Since, Dumbledore has already defeated Grindelwald, there might not be any reference to this person in the last book. What do you think about it?
July 7, 2007
I tottaly agree with you. When I read that about the locket that couldn’t be open, I just sort of bypassed it. But then after a while, I went back and read that part, I relized then that there was no doubt that regulas was R.A.B. But coudln’t it be someone else, using an alias? How do we know that it wasn’t Snape carrying out Dumby’s orders? Maybe that’s what they were fighting about… but then why would Snape go and kill Dumby… sorry I was thinking while typing. But anywhoo, I just started the Half-Blood prince for like the millionith time, so maybe i’ll come up with something more. Every time I reread one of the books, I learn something new, that I bypassed the other time’s I read the book!!!
July 8, 2007
this has nothin to do with wat everyones talkin about but i realized a loophole.
wen montague was stuck in between hogwarts and borgin and burkes, malfoy said that he appareted out but it says in an earlier book that montague turned up inside of a toilet in hogwarts.
how would he have been able to apparate into hogwarts?
July 8, 2007
why shouldnt u be able to?
July 8, 2007
it saysabout 50 times that you cant apparate inside of or
into hogwarts
July 9, 2007
hello, im only up to reading messages posted in 2005 so sorry if somebody has already said something along these lines.
Harry is definately a Horcrux. It was probably a mistake in the aftershock of Harry surviving Voldemort’s avada kedavra curse or something like that. It would explain why Harry is a parselmouth and can feel Voldemort’s feelings, see what he’s doing etc etc. This connection between Harry and Voldemort is too strong to just be a result from being cursed.
I think that Harry will somehow use dementors to get Voldemort’s soul out of his body. Remember, the Dementors Kiss removes the soul through the mouth…
Anyway, the book comes out next week, so we’ll know then!
July 9, 2007
actually i don’t believe that sirius is dead yet. they never said that sirius died, he just disappeared behind the veil
July 10, 2007
My nephew, who is an authority on Harry Potter, believes Harry’s scar is a horcrux. I agree with him. It explains a lot about how Harry had access into Voldemorts thoughts in Order of the Phoenix and why the sorting hat had problems sorting him. In his head, somewhere, Harry has a portion of Vol’s soul. It fits with the prophecy as well - ‘one cannot live while the other survives’. If Vol is killed at the end of Deadly Hallows (and he MUST die) Harry’s scar will disappear. Whether this will mean Harry must die too I don’t know. I hope not.
I don’t think this theory appears anywhere above but I haven’t read everything so I hope I’m not repeating what someone else has written.
July 11, 2007
To number 663, It also says that when he did apparte out of the cabnet, he ended up in the toliet BECAUSE he apparted out.. Of course that could just be me reading between the lines.
July 11, 2007
Dumby said that the only known relic of Griffindor was the sword in his office… he was wrong.
The sorting hat was also Griffindors, could this be used as a horcrux? I personally think this is digging a bit, but it is interesting.
July 11, 2007
Ohhh… but we are still missing Ravenclaw aren’t we?
July 11, 2007
The sorting hat has to have plently of charms and other stuff protecting it from being harmed by curses or jinxes. Otherwise, a little punk could just bewitch it and make it put it in the house it wants, or an enemy could, so I don’t think the Hat could be a Horcrux.
July 11, 2007
To carol, this was all explained in the fith book, harry got that scar because the dark lords curse left it there, it’s because of harry’s mother’s love that he has that scar, I believe you are mistaken on that one, but if you have evidence I would love to hear it.
July 12, 2007
ii have a question… What side is Sirius’s brother on - the good guys or the bad guys?
If he is with the good guys then it is probably he who destroyed the locket - but if he is with the bad guys then i think it would be someone else because you would’nt destroy one of your master’s souls.
July 12, 2007
blaaahhh yea post 47 was a long time ago but the part im interested in, it goes like this for those of u too lazy to scroll up.
the coward - kakaroff
the one who left him - snape
the faithful servent who will re-join him - Barty Crouch Jr.
yea that was probably said b4 now but i wanted to correct it myself =D
and to post 670 i doubt voldy would want to make his horcrux something that sings and wiggles around in front of the whole school… it draws too much attention to itself and dumby would have realized it long before if it was one.
July 12, 2007
i however think that harry may be a horcrux and that if he is voldy will want it out of him (obviously) but i think he will either try to make harry get it out by making a horcrux and placing voldys soul piece in it ( think about it harry already wants to kill Snape, and personally i would enjoy snape dieing by the hand of his own Sectumsempra curse, but voldermort wont really care obout snapes life, he would gladly throw him away if it ment he could get his piece of soul out of harry.)
Or, maybe just maybe a dementor could suck it out? i dono about this theory i was thinking about it last night. however a dementor would go after misery and voldermort doesnt really feel anything does he. so if it had to choose i bet the dementor would munch on harrys soul before it bit into voldys part of soul. =p just a thought.
July 12, 2007
referring to post 670… i think
im not quite sure about this but isnt the sorting hats ravenclaw’s, i think i remeber something about it saying that it received ravenclaws brain or somethin
and as for the regulas black theory i partly agree due to an interview i read with JKR saying taht no new characters would be introduced so i figured it must be him as he was the ony one i culd think of, but regulus wasnt really portrayed as the kind of guy that would deceive lord voldemort… it was pretty clearly implied that he was a wuss, serious himself said he was killed because he got cold feet so…. i cant really see him as having a role like that
i also dont see how R.A.B could get that locket by himself/herself, the greatest known wizard himself (dumbledore) had trouble getting it with harry’s asitance which made me consider the multiple person theory about R.A.B not being just one person
well thats my thoguhts anyway….
July 12, 2007
to post 677.
he could have made kretcher go with him.
and that would explain why kretcher is such a freak. if he was forced to drink that potion like dumby was it may have had devistating lasting effects that we couldnt see happen to dumbledore cus he was killed and chucked off a roof.
July 12, 2007
to 670.
cant believe u still desgussing the “hat is a horcrux” subjebt still. read jr’s web page man,
@677.
ye that would pretty much be my argument aswell, for RAB not to turn out regulus.
anyway the translations really point at a black, but not nessaserily regulus. what about andromera, tonks mother, she probably was a much stronger wizard than regulus, and because she was a black, maybe she would also have the same kontrol over kreacher, and made him drink the potion.
and yea hehe that could actuatly explain why kreacher is so screwed up;p
but can anyone tell me on wich time andromera lived? it would maybe clear the theory up a little.
July 13, 2007
i’m predicting that in the seventh book we will discover that the whole time Hedwig has actually been an animagus in disguise
July 13, 2007
yer i see the kreacher point, and kreacher certainly wouldnt tell harry if he didnt demand it of him
i been wonderin bout the regulus black part and well looking at a fair bit of info on wikipedia, it certainly shows even more evidense that it WAS him though i still dont see why he would turn against voldemort, i can see why he’d get cold feet but i cant see why hed have the guts to go AGAINST him when he can barely back down from being a detah eater
im still tryin to find more evidence and will get back ad leave a comment if i do…
July 13, 2007
i also noticed (and agree to a previous message above mine somewhere lol) about the locket being at 12 grimauld place, coz its discribed as a “heavy locket” both in ORDER OF THE PHOENIX and in an overview on a website, so that sorta shows that they are explainin the same object…. hehe i just love talkin crap and tryin to find connections…
July 14, 2007
RAB is aberforth dumbledore (he disguised his name so voldemort would not know) or regulus black. the latter is more probable.
July 14, 2007
in other languages, they have changed the “b” from RAB, to another letter representing the colur black in that language. for example, in dutch it is RAZ and black in ducth is zwartz,lol. it has to be regulus (alphard or arcturus as a middle name) black.
July 15, 2007
There are two things that i noticed that i have to say.
The first is more of a question. Did anyone who saw the fifth movie keep a close eye on the family tree in Grimmauld Place? I tried to and didnt see anything of significance except for the name “Arcturus” (sp). I know that rowling gave them an extensive family tree to use for the movie so i thought that there might be some other interesting facts in there but i didnt notice anything.
The second is also about the movie. My reasoning is that if the locket that kreecher had in Grimmauld place was in truth a horcrux, that would in my opinoin be an essential part of the story. So i would think that they would include that into the movie but there was no locket at all in the movie so that leads me to believe that the locket that kreecher had was not really slytherins locket. This could just be completely falso though because the moviemakers have ways of working things out while still leaving parts out.
This is just something that i thought of and i dont necesarily know if i even believe it.
July 15, 2007
regulus black is R.A.B all the clues go togeter from what i got from the j.k.r diary website about the black family which i spend months hacking at R.A.B is Reulus Arcturus Black hope this will give you a clue in book one and two when harry is speaking to dumbldore at the end of the books.
July 16, 2007
Hi every1 i just had a thought as i read through the top 20 quotes. I could be repeating something that somebody else has suggested but bare with me as i only have read a few theories . .
When lilly sacrificed herself to save harrys life she put a special magic on him that protected him from vol.
So does that mean harry has a new magic protection after dumbledores sacrifice?
Also i do believe that harry is a horcrux . . if i remember correctly it has been said by DD in one of the books the reckoned vol left a piece of himself in harry after the attack.
AND finally . .
I think harry will discover this in the final book and kill himself so that the dark lord can be defeated.
Its magic people, Anything can happen.
July 16, 2007
its all obvious why severus snape killed dumbledore.
he has vowed to protect/help malfoy, malfoys job is to kill dumbledore. Snape had no choice or else he would have died. he is waiting for the removal of the curse to repay the favour he owes james.
July 16, 2007
Reguarding post 687:
Even though i dont want to believe it, i think that Harry sacrificing himself to allow voldermort to be killed is very believable. He just has the hero mentality and would do anything even take his own life to protect others.
One other thing:
I know this is a uk forum but for any americans that saw the today show interview with d.r. He was saying that there is a very very small chance that rowling might do an eight book….i think that will be very interesting…maybe she wont publish it for years and years to come….could be very fun
July 16, 2007
to brandon. ur quit rite i read tht in a few websites so she might b doing another 1
July 16, 2007
I believe that Snape was in some way forced to kill Dumbledore because of the Unbreakable Vow he made with Draco’s mother. If Draco failed at killing Dumbledore he would certainly have been killed by Voldemort, which ultimately could lead to Snape’s death by means of his broken vow. This act could also help Snape become even more trusted by the Dark Lord, giving the Order inside information. I still believe that Snape is “a good guy” simply because Dumbledore gave him his trust up until the very end, I believe this means a great deal. This all of course is my personal opinion
July 16, 2007
harry related to voldemort! well think about it. voldemort says he didnt need/want to kill lily but he needed to kill harry, he also needed to kill his father james. voldemort has killed all his family and he says he is seeking immortality. so maybe james was related to him thus making harry related to him, so harry may be all that stands in voldemorts way to becoming immortal the death of voldemorts relatives could be a part of becoming immortal. another backup is that he says he wont kill harry if he gets the philosopher stone. that would make him immortal and so he wouldnt need to kill harry. im guessing killing harry is easier than making another stone.
July 17, 2007
R.A.B= CODENAME FOR ALBUS DUMBLEDORE
July 17, 2007
to bub
obviously harry and voldemort are not realted! in the fourth book voldemort needs harrys blood to come back to power and if they were related he would already have harrys blood in him!!
July 17, 2007
stefanie. its stated that he needs it so he can touch/kill harry. having harry’s blood does not mean harry is alive. the moment he dies he would still have blood in him.
July 17, 2007
Just speculation- but what if RAB is not 1 person!
The message to the Dark Lord uses “I” as a pronoun, but RAB could also be:
RONALD, ARTHUR, BILL I.E: Weasleys.
Nevertheless, this is speculation
July 17, 2007
he i think u are right but also how come when dumbeldore got killed he flew back from snapes curse but isnt the avra kadavra ment to make u drop down dead and there might still be a time changer a we do not no if hermine gave it back. i also think creature and neville will be in it a lot more as if u have seen the movie u can tell they didnt want to put him in as he had such a small part. also when harry thought he wa paralised from fear it might of been snapes curse so he did not get killed snape has saved harrys live before why not again. and i think dumbeldore will be back as like i said the curse is ment to make u fall down dead not to fly out of a window
i also think tht hagrids brother will have a part as he is like the only giant on there side it sounds like. neville to kill betrix person and wheres dobby in the last book. ron or hermine will die and malfoy and i beleive tht harry i a horcox thing so tht wat it mean by the other one can not live while the other one survives. also voldermort might have had to be a horcox for harry so he could get the final 7 parts which is meant to be the must powerful number in magic. the locket is defenitly with creature and i think tht the twins will be bigger
everyone from the d.a. will fight with the deafeaters along with the order some thing about beertrix the death eater as how come she made her kill sirius not malfoys dad or something it also links in with neville as she tortured his parents
cant
July 17, 2007
Hey, I’ve re-read the sixth book and am reading everyone’s comments. But who is Aberforth and Rookwood?
By the way, I completely agree with the theory that Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him, but I disagree with the motive one person mentioned. Dumbledore wanted Snape to kill him so that Malfoy wouldn’t have to. Dumbledore wanted Malfoy to stay on the bright side so he PLEADED for Snape to kill him.
more evidence: the book said that Dumbledore was pleading towards Snape, he wasn’t begging (two different things). You plead for someone to do something, but you beg for someone not to do something
July 17, 2007
i just finished re-reading the fifth book and realized something.
We all know that for the most part J.K. Rowling doesnt introduce things into the book unless they are going to serve a purpose somewhere down the line. I believe that the mirror that Sirius gave Harry has to come back into play somwhere. I’m not sure exactly for what, but it seems very probable
July 17, 2007
Doesnt Harry’s blood have love in it, something that Voldemort knows not. And i remember reading in the fourth book when harry tells Dumbledore that Voldemort used Harry’s blood, Harry thinks he sees a glimpse of a triumph in Dumbledore’s eyes. Which could mean that Voldemort overlooked something that Dumbledore thinks is much more important. More important than the fact that Voldemort can finally touch Harry without hurting himself. Maybe it has to do with Love but maybe not
July 18, 2007
i bet harry will kill voldemort realise that he is a horcrux and kills himself because he knows the only way to vanquish voldemorts soul forever will be by killing himself . . ie d last horcrux
July 18, 2007
mazlo123
i think you are on to something and its a good idea but how could harry be a horcrux?? wen did voldemort make him one?? i guess he could have used harrys mums death to make harry a horcrux but then why would he try to kill harry?? and he couldn’t have done it after he tryed to kill harry coz he was like half dead!! i think it’s a good idea but it seems a little impossible. but there could be a loop hole.
July 18, 2007
Well in the newest movie, on the family tree Right next to Sirious is “R.A.B.” thefore, his brother, right?
July 18, 2007
R.A.B is Regulus Arcturus Black
July 19, 2007
cassidy D
in the movie did it acctually have the initials R.A.B or was it his full name? coz if it was his full name it could just be a coincidence. im pretty sure that it is sirius’ brother but i dont rekon he distroyed it and that it was the heavy locket mentioned in the fifth book and that kretcher took it and gave it to bellatrix lestrange when he left the house at sirius’ comand of “get out”
July 19, 2007
hey does anyone know the website that they have photos of every page of the new book?? i wanna check it out.
July 19, 2007
rab could also by a long shot be rabastan lestrange who is a death eater so hed call voldermort dark lord
July 19, 2007
or rab could be 3 deth eaters who hated v and found out about the horcruxes and decided to try n kill im like regulus avery/augustus and sum 1 else
July 19, 2007
Basically, I think that R.A.B. was a death eater, and because of that, was able to reach into the green solution (which Dumbledore was forced to drink), and take out the locket without any harm. Remember the clue about how Snape was able to run into the tower through the hex that was placed on it, like a force field, but Snape ran through it without being repulsed. Harry reckoned, it was because he was a death eater and they could get through the hex. Same sort of thing with the greeny liquid. Therefore, Regulus Arcturus Black is a possible person who is R.A.B. but there may be others as has been stated, but the person is, or was, a death eater to get to the charm so easily.
July 19, 2007
R.A.B could be Rupert. The name Slugy mentions when refering to Ron after he has been poisoned. It is probably because Slug taught him and he was one of his favourites. Regulus Black is too obvious and Rowling normally always has unexpected conclusions.
July 19, 2007
Hi Srihari.
I believe that we will learn more about Grindelwald because JK said that we will find out more about Dumbledore’s beggings and family. It is possible( if not probable) that he met Riddle and that he was the one who told Riddle how to make a Horcrux. Remember, Slugy doesn’t know the spell that encases one’s soul into an artefact and Grindelwald may have told Riddle this spell. We may learn more about Grindelwald as we discover more about Voldemort in the next book. After all, he may have been Voldemort’s mentor.
Grindelwald was also friends with Adolf Hitler and was from Switzerland, Jk says.
July 20, 2007
hello, i was reading the mugglenet.com “what will happen in harry potter 7″ book, and it had a very interesting clue..
in the norwegian edition of the harry potter series, the black family name is svaart, and in that same edition the initials on the note found in the locket are “R.A.S.” rather than “R.A.B.”. and in the dutch edition, the black family name is Zwarts and the initials in the note inside the locket in this book are “R.A.Z.”
due to the fact that rowling tends to breeze by characters and then have them play important roles in future books ON TOP OF this clue, and multiple other clues, explains a good reason why regulus black is almost certainly the mysterious R.A.B. Why would she bother to have sirius mention regulus in OOTP if he was never going to have a part later on? it’s not in her nature.
July 20, 2007
i still think snape is evil, he killed dumbledore with an “unforgivable curse” and it says in teh 5th book that you can only use one if you mean it, so snape wouldve WANTED dumbledore dead, not just done it so he looked like a deatheater …. simple as that
July 20, 2007
post #494
haha i like that theory, its out there and is a longshot but i see the reasoning behind it, i think Aberforth will come into the 7th book somehow, because she mentions him a bit but doesnt sa anything about whats happened with him, whether he dies or not or anything like that…. so i hope he is in book seven
July 20, 2007
bub - I have deleted your comment. Please don’t post anything even vaguely spoiler related.
July 21, 2007
Hi, I think there are other equally important mysteries like RAB…
To start of with… who gave Harry the Invisibility Cloak… I know most of us guessed it as Dumbledore… but, none of these books reveal that, isn’t it?
And I guess, Hogwards holds many more mysteries… vanishing cabinets at Hogwarts… connecting Borgin’s!!
Anyway, the book’s out today… I have booked mine with the local outlet… I am off to pick the same.
July 21, 2007
Wow, I just stumbled across this message board, and am Surprised to see that it has been active since August 2, 2005, lol very nice. gratz..
July 21, 2007
ive finished readin deathly hallows im not going to reveal anything incase people are still reading but im so pleased the spoiler i saw was wrong. btw r.a.b turns out to be as obvious as the first guess. Have fun!
July 21, 2007
REULUS REGULUS REGULUS BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 21, 2007
REULUS IS R.A.B !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 21, 2007
As i first read the book, i read the note and didn’t care about RAB, but when i read the second time, my interest became very big
July 21, 2007
Harry’s son name is Albuis Severus. So, if harry put this name in his son, snape must be good
July 21, 2007
mengoporra you havent read the book and yet you try and spoil peoples surprise of him having children. if im right you jus read the last page or so.
July 22, 2007
mengoporra, why spoil it for peopl who haven’t finished???
I ifinished mine at 9 yesterday morning and wow what a read.
Truely gripping with so many twists and turns it all works out well. well balanced sad/happy/ontheedgeofyourseat.
well worth waiting for (I do appriciate that I only started reading harry potter a few months ago so a few months wait is nothing compaired to yrs that some of you have waited, I bow at your patience)
July 22, 2007
I think you’re right and that Kreacher went with Regulus to collect the Horcrux in the cave.
When the filmmakers were making the fifth movie, they were planning to cut out Kreacher but JK Rowling told them they’d have a major problem in the seventh movie if they did that so Kreacher has to be important to the plot of the seventh book.
July 23, 2007
for all of those who have finised the final book, who was disapointed with the way it ended? some of it did not make sence to me and something about the way it ended was unsatisfying to me.
July 23, 2007
I thought it was satisfactory, but the thing that i did find confusing was all of the names flying around everywhere. I just couldnt keep track of them all logically.
I want to ask questions, but i dont want to be a spoiler so I will wait some time before i ask.
July 24, 2007
At last all is revealed, (well nearly) still a few unanswered questions, but personally I think JK Rowling has left the ending open for an entire new 7 years at Hogwarts for ‘junior’ and friends!!!
July 25, 2007
yer i didnt really undertsand all the names (and i dont care if im spoiling, theres a warning at the top of the page) but it was like she expected us to know all about grindlewald or whatever and all them, and the whole book was so fast-pace it was harder to keep up and all, like she was tryin to fit a whole heap into one book that shoulda stretched over to at least 1 more book, but it was still excellent.
July 25, 2007
OMG!!! that was such a good read!! i finished tha day it came out! i agree with master-coupe, it was weird how jk sorta expected us to know about grindelwald………is he mentioned in anyother books?? i’m pretty sure his not but i mighta missed sumthing! was it just me or did anyone else notice how many people died!!!! OMG… fred! and what about remus lupin and tonks?!! they just had a baby!! i wish jk had told us what happened to lilttle teddy…like who did he live with??? i hope it was harry! the last chapter was sooooooo good!! thank God Ron and Hermione got together!! i was like FINALLY!!!!!
it’s really hard to realise that this is the end of harry potter…it’s sooo sad! does anyone think jk will write anymore books? i dont think so. i hope she writes other books but like not harry potter although i would love her to!!!
July 25, 2007
well now that its out in the open i might as well just say it.
I thought the same thing with teddy, considering that Harry was supposed to be hid godfather. I wish we knew who he lived with. Does anyone remember james saying something like, “cant he come and live with us dad? I’ll share a room with Albus.” I thought i remember reading that about teddy unless it was directed at someone else.
July 26, 2007
yer i wish the “nineteen years later” bit told us a bit more, like whether harry and ron became aurors and stuff and what hermione did, i always thought she was gunna turn out to be the minister for magic or somethin or the ‘head….witch” of hogwarts
and it woulda been good to find out about george ans stuff, i just wish she had sid a bit more….. hopefully she gets bored of NOT writing harry potter and comes out witha new series with him as an adult, or bout his kidsor somethin…. but i think im just dreamin, haha
July 26, 2007
i still find it all sad and stupid. i was like u cant kill hedwig he makes the books lol. and no explanation for lupin was the stupid bit. all in all she said she might do an 8th book but it will be an overview of them all and it would be for charity, so i wont get dat cos it wont be very good unless im feelin charitable.
hehe
July 29, 2007
i agree, for once i am disappointed with the way a harry potter book ended. i mean i loved how it ended but in the nineteen years later part i think jk could have said a bit about how their lives turned out. i hop that ron and harry became aurors and herione became head misstress of hogwarts because sshe wouldn’t work for the ministry shes not like that.
July 29, 2007
I agree it was a great read… I enjoyed every minute of it !! At the same time, I am sad that I don’t feel like reading anything more (or at least for a while). I miss these great stories, which took me away (for at least a while) from my reality. I felt - exactly as Ms. Rowling described through Hermione about Sirius (in Book 5)… even I too was kind of… living through them.
On the other had, I also agree, that the last chapter could have thrown light on their chosen line of career. It would have made more sense, given the fact that, Ms. Rowling used education/career as the secondary (but yet an important) focus through out the books.
But, I have to disagree with few who said-
Firstly, that Grindelwald was never mentioned before (book7): I would like to remind you that Grindelwald was mentioned right in the Book-1 (on Dumbledore’s Chocolate Frog card).
Secondly, about what happened to Teddy during the 19 years: well, Tonks did say (back in the Room of Requirements “Battle of Hogwarts”) that teddy was being looked after by her Mom. Also, Harry said that Teddy comes around 4 times a week for dinner (as good as saying that Teddy spent most part of the week with Harry’s family). But, though not important, the thing that is curious (probably if any) about Teddy is whether he acquired any of Lupin’s warewolf qualities - and we will never know now, can we?
Finally, I would like to thank Ben for creating / managing this Blog (if I’m not wrong). It was a real pleasure sharing my thoughts on RAB / HP.
Thank you everybody.
Regards,
Srihari
India
July 31, 2007
I really enjoyed the book but i felt she just rushed the end (the nineteen yrs later part) it felt like she just wanted to get it over and done with, she could have made it more informing, also i found the end a little cheesy but other than that, brilliant book.
August 5, 2007
agreed. the end could have been a lot better.. like what happened to the dursleys? and the ministry?luna and her dad? what happened to hogwarts after the battle? was the room of requirement ruined after the fire? what about weasley wizarding weases? so much unexplained.. malonsis is right about rowling rushing though the 19 years later.. but other than that it was a pretty awesome book. very exciting..
AND I WAS RIGHT ABOUT HARRY BEING A HORCURX!
hehe
thanks jk
August 11, 2007
I think the girl teddy ended up with was bill and fleurs kid and that makes sense becasue bill was slightly werewolf and remus was a werewolf. also i dont think harry woould have become an aurour since he said he had enough trouble for a lifetime. i also think the reason jk rowling didnt go into so much detail was to let us imagine and leave an opening for another book. but i do wish she has told us what happened to george. in the fourth book george likes a muggle that likes him, so maybe he ended up with her
August 16, 2007
the girl that teddy ends up with is fleur and bills daughter.
because her name is french, like victorieaea or soemthign lol.
and then one of harrys kids was like, thats gross or soemthign, hes snogging our “cousin” and
that victorie, would be their cousin.
Well, J.K did annouse recently that she MIGHT write like a book, that exxplains everything that happens after.
but not right now, she realllly wants to take a break from writting.
And, Bertiebott’s i think you are right.
my friend was also saying how J.K was letting us imagine everything.
like she didnt explain how nevielle got the wand from the sorting hat
when the goblin was suposed to have it?
Maybe she let us explore the “only a true gryffindor can get the swrod” thingy.
like, no matter what circumstance, only a true gryff can get it.
ohh, really? wheres the part that george said somethign abt likking a muggle? i wanna read it. haha
But, overall-the most AMAZING book yet,
i think im going to re-read the series
=)
August 25, 2007
i wanted harry to become minister for magic because in the death chapter dumbledore tells him people like harry who dont look for power who are simply assigned it make the best leaders. but then again he took on voldemort so he must have been offered like 100 positions for aura. + kingsley shacklebolt would make a gd minister neway.
August 25, 2007
page 328 of the half blood prince, in the chapter a very frosty christmas
August 25, 2007
page 328 of the half blood prince, in the chapter a very frosty christmas george talks of the muggle girl
August 28, 2007
post #494
:) 
i was reading threw random coments and i just want to let you know that your theory is gud but impossible coz albus says that aberforth has i liking for goats not cats and mrs figg and aberforth are both at the funeral…… aberforth is describe as the barman of the hogs head as at that point harry dus not no its him……… but nice theory!
October 23, 2007
i haven’t posted on here in ages so i thought i might. I always thought why didn’t Dumbledore get married and now i know. He was gay! I still think he is and always has been a great character, it answers why Dumbledore couldn’t face Grindelwald for a long time, he was in love with him.
October 23, 2007
Bub that is old news, it’s stuff you pick up in the early books and was announced in the media in the last few days.
The book ended the way it did basiccaly giving Harry what he wanted his whole life. A happy loving family to call his own.
There will be no 8th book but J.K has said she will be writing a encyclopedia explaining more about the missing 19 yrs.
December 8, 2007
haha oh man i remember this place way back in the old days before it was closed down before book 6 even came out. except all of the stuff including my own was deleted after post 175 or so. that sucks.
December 26, 2007
who thinks harry should have become seeker for England or became a quidditch player of some sort?
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