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Gutenberg Reactions: Mixed Feedback?

WordPress 4.9.8 was released last week and Gutenberg plugin installations have rocketed because of the ‘try Gutenberg’ prompt that was included. This post on WPCouple shows some of the fantastic positive reactions Gutenberg has received.

Of course, it’s not all rosey. Look at the Gutenberg plugin reviews and there’s a lot of negativity. Many, many, 1 star reviews have appeared. At the moment Gutenberg reminds me a lot of Marmite, you either love it, or you hate it (FWIW I love both Marmite and Gutenberg).

Whilst I like Gutenberg there’s a lot of good feedback within the negative reviews, if the Gutenberg team can read between the lines and see the underlying reasons for the hate – and they can take action on those – then the project will become a lot better because of it.

However, I have a few thoughts on the feedback and how the release went.

Firstly, there’s a large contingent of people who seem to think Gutenberg is finished. They don’t realise this is an in-progress plugin and that things will continue to change and improve. This probably could have been made clearer. People are being asked to test the editor, but it’s not mentioned that it’s not final.

Secondly, a lot of people are giving feedback in an offensive way and this makes me sad. Not liking something doesn’t give you the right to be nasty to people. Whether you like the plugin or not real people are putting a lot of time and effort into making this thing. If you want them to take your feedback seriously then you should be respectful of that. Give constructive feedback. Explain what the problems are but try to keep emotions out of it. The more useful information you can give the more likely they will pay attention to you. Ranting and swearing is not constructive.

Thirdly, I’ve read quite a few of the reviews now, and a surprising amount of people are WordPress developers – many with clients – and this is the first time they have tried Gutenberg. One even went so far as to say he was aware of the project but ignored it because he was “too busy”. I don’t understand why you would ignore something that will directly affect how you work! Surely as a business owner you should be considering the future?

There’s definitely some concerns with Gutenberg that are very valid and it’s a shame that many of these concerns are being brushed under the carpet, often with a “use the classic editor plugin” response. The classic editor is a stop gap. I think there needs to be more effort explaining how Gutenberg will affect things, and how it will develop in the future: more community outreach.

As a side note: the classic editor plugin has only slightly less installs than Gutenberg and is growing at the same rate.

My gut feeling is that for the majority of sites nothing will change. There will be a new editor to learn but the site will look as it always has. Only a small percentage will have problems because of extreme or unusual customizations/ plugin conflicts. The bigger issue, I feel, is for people with clients who they will then have to provide training and support to.

Core developers are now going through and replying to 1 star reviews asking for more feedback (often suggesting users create Github tickets). Whilst this it’s great that they are trying to engage I imagine many giving feedback either won’t read the comment, or won’t have a Github account/ the desire to learn a new platform in order for their voice to be heard. I think the team will need to triage the reviews and create tickets themselves from what they can learn. It’s a nice idea that people will do this for them – but I don’t think it’s going to happen.

People say that to be involved you have to show up, but that’s easier said than done. I’ve created a number of Gutenberg issues, and even submitted a pull request, and they’ve all been closed without a satisfactory resolution.

There are some things I’ve managed to do that have affected (what I consider) positive change, but it’s been a hard slog, and I don’t have the mental energy to keep trying so unless I feel really strongly about something I probably won’t try to get involved again. For context I’ve been involved with WordPress for over a decade and know a number of the contributors. In a couple of cases I was asked directly for feedback on tickets, and I still find it hard work. If you’re new to the project then I can only imagine how intimidating/ demoralising it will be when you create a ticket and have it closed pretty soon after.

Anyway; the short story is that feedback is very mixed. If you don’t like it then don’t be nasty, but do be constructive and clear so that things can (hopefully) be improved.

This story first appeared in MasterWP, a weekly newsletter for WordPress professionals.



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  1. Same here. I have engaged with feedback on Gutenberg. I have touched on the pain points, made suggestions on what would add value to the editor and pointed out where it lack functionality that is present in the current editor, functionality and features needed for certain use case and workflows.

    While I have gone in to depth there is often a sense with some of the team that it is going in one ear and out the other. I do agree with you there are a number of volunteers who are carrying the torch for Gutenberg and they do make a good effort to engage and it has been a pleasure to communicate with them.

    Agree, the dev team do need to do triage on much of the comments in reviews. It’s a bit of an insult to contributors who have gone to the trouble to participate there. Granted some of the commentary is terse and of little use. But, I have noticed that if you respond to these to gently persuade those to elaborate, I have had my contributions, like other’s removed by the Brute Force Moderator. Also it is evident that some of the commentary is made by users who haven’t used WordPress to any involved degree or for any of the more complex CMS use cases. In other words they don’t see the pain points that developers are experiencing where Gutenberg can’t handle a more challenging use case or disrupt the workflow. So yes engaging in all this is hard work, developing your arguments to get your points across.

    I see some merit in the Gutenberg. I see potential in it to handle the structure of page layout in a much more sophisticated manner. The team behind it are adamant that it is a page builder, but I think the editor would be better served if it actually got of the fence and went down that route, do it full blown as a front end editor. Even if it was fairly basic it would act as a foundation for users new to the concept of page building. It could also be a common foundation that any of the more sophisticated builders could sit on with an API that allows them to add their own bells and whistles and interfaces.

    Thing is, I don’t get a sense that Gutenberg is going anywhere in this direction. People forget that UX in the broad sense covers everything from the UI to the customer experience and Gutenberg fails a lot in the latter, amplified by the notion that it is a good idea to make it the de-facto default editor at this early stage. Hence the reason me rating of it will remain 1 star for the foreseeable future.

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